How did Google Talk change from a dream to a nightmare?

Re:How did Google Talk change from a dream to a nightmare? by amelius on Sunday February 11, 2018 @07:54AM (#16352474)

> Instant messaging is an example of something that used to work, and now doesn't.

It's a miracle that the web works the way it does. So perhaps we need a consortium (like W3C) for messaging too?

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Re:How did Google Talk change from a dream to a nightmare? by drdaeman on Sunday February 11, 2018 @08:45AM (#16352630)

Ugh. No. You need vendors having common interest banding together to standardize on some parts for everyone's profit (what WHATWG essentially was).

Otherwise, no matter what the committee does, it's doomed to fail because there is no incentive to support them.

And given that no one wants interop with their systems (except for some users, but who cares about them?), an interest group is unlikely to appear.

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Re:How did Google Talk change from a dream to a nightmare? by zbentley on Sunday February 11, 2018 @10:25AM (#16353023)

In the business space, there was a consortium of companies/contributors that got together to try to solve enterprise messaging (not IM/person-to-person messaging, but messaging computers/message buses/queues/etc.)

That consortium created AMQP, which is a fucking abomination of a protocol. You can read through the spec and see the design-by-committee chimeric parts.

I'm not convinced that it's a good approach, basically.

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