26% of violent crime convicts account for 63% of violent crime conviction (2014)

Re:26% of violent crime convicts account for 63% of violent ... by acdha on Saturday February 10, 2018 @12:32PM (#16348360)

> Studies like this are hard, because they're usually labeled 'racist', or it turns into an ad hominem attack on the authors, or struck down in the media for singling out some minority group.

I think you’re confusing studies with conclusions. What you’re describing doesn’t happen but what is common are studies finding a correlation which leads to someone claiming causation and then complaining when they’re criticized.

As an example, in the US it’s uncontested that some populations have worse academic performance. That doesn’t get criticized seriously. What does get criticism is when a right-wing commenter tries to say that this must be because of genetic causes or the popular euphemism “culture” – and that criticism is well deserved since that ignores all of the other explanations and checks which actual science would require and goes straight to the same conclusion which avowed racists have been pushing for centuries.

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Re:26% of violent crime convicts account for 63% of violent ... by TheCoelacanth on Saturday February 10, 2018 @01:18PM (#16348625)

Also people often make an unfounded extrapolation from arrest or conviction stats to crimes committed. We can accurately measure arrests or convictions fairly easily so we frequently have statistics for those, but it is very hard to accurately measure who is committing crimes. People often like to assume that there is a direct correspondence between arrests/convictions and crimes committed, but that is an unjustified assumption.

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Re:26% of violent crime convicts account for 63% of violent ... by ctlby on Saturday February 10, 2018 @01:37PM (#16348742)

It’s not at all hard, and obviously so: for most crimes (e.g. assault, rape, robbery, murder), the perpetrator’s race is observable. The National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS) and National Incident Based Reporting System (NIBRS) measure exactly this, and surprise, surprise: offense rates and arrest rates line up pretty exactly for every race across every category of crime.

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Re:26% of violent crime convicts account for 63% of violent ... by mwilliaams on Saturday February 10, 2018 @01:41PM (#16348763)

A logical and reasonable assumption, and I think probably mostly true, but still unproven.

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Re:26% of violent crime convicts account for 63% of violent ... by exabrial on Saturday February 10, 2018 @11:08PM (#16351127)

Way to prove my point.

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Re:26% of violent crime convicts account for 63% of violent ... by acdha on Sunday February 11, 2018 @06:01PM (#16355338)

If you aren’t capable of defending your claims, why even reply? You made a sweeping general claim with no evidence: the responsible thing to do would be admitting it and not repeating the process.

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