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Re:In web design, everything easy is hard again by hnzix on Saturday February 10, 2018 @07:16AM (#16346994)
I've spent days tracking down a bug around a color picker widget, turns out JS was implicitly casting my string value to octal.

I've worked with heaps of toy languages like Lingo, vbscript and ActionScript, and nothing has made me as viscerally angry as JavaScript (ok maybe PHP's complete lack of naming consistency). JS is an accident of history that has somehow become the de facto standard.

I guess worse really is better.

Re:In web design, everything easy is hard again by kaoD on Saturday February 10, 2018 @08:36AM (#16347233)
> turns out JS was implicitly casting my string value to octal

How exactly? I'm really curious. AFAIK it's pretty hard for a JS string to be casted into anything (pretty easy the other way around though).

I guess maybe parseInt can do that, but that's neither casting not implicit.

Re:In web design, everything easy is hard again by hnzix on Saturday February 10, 2018 @08:54AM (#16347276)
Looks like it's been fixed in ES5. From memory I was performing an operation on a html color string and if you clicked a color with a certain prefix it would crash.

I could easily reproduce the bug but it took me forever to work out why JS was choking. I think I added in some ridiculous string padding to prevent the auto casting.

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/2547836/why-doesnt-an-oc...

Re:In web design, everything easy is hard again by rwaldron on Saturday February 10, 2018 @02:57PM (#16349231)
> Looks like it's been fixed in ES5

That was published 9 years ago.

Re:In web design, everything easy is hard again by phpnode on Saturday February 10, 2018 @10:25AM (#16347656)
Presumably by calling parseInt('010') which used to detect zero leading strings as octal.
Re:In web design, everything easy is hard again by k__ on Saturday February 10, 2018 @07:58AM (#16347114)
That's like saying group XY of people is bad because you got mugged by one person of that group one time.

While I understand that a problem like this is unnerving, it isn't the rule.

Re:In web design, everything easy is hard again by hnzix on Saturday February 10, 2018 @08:10AM (#16347155)
Wait, did you just call me racist for not liking JavaScript?
Re:In web design, everything easy is hard again by k__ on Saturday February 10, 2018 @08:30AM (#16347210)
A chauvinist.

People throwing around strawmen in here like nobodies business.

We can do this with all languages and tell ourselve we're using the "superior" language.