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Re:Uber and Waymo Reach Settlement by whack on Friday February 09, 2018 @04:55PM (#16344181)
Is it really? I would think Waymo's primary goal is making money for their shareholders, not pursuing personal vendettas.
Re:Uber and Waymo Reach Settlement by vkou on Friday February 09, 2018 @05:08PM (#16344277)
Keeping employees from straying too close to the line of 'sharing trade secrets with their next employer' makes money for shareholders. There's a chilling effect.

The next Levandowski will think twice before following in this one's footsteps - even if their actions would be 100% legal. The next Kalanick will think twice before hiring him.

Re:Uber and Waymo Reach Settlement by tytso on Saturday February 10, 2018 @12:42PM (#16348423)
Levandowski can't be all that smart if he thought he could download 14,000 documents onto his work laptop, without Google noticing. I mean, hello? Any sane I/T security protection architecture would assume that despite the best security you can put on employee's laptops and mobile devices, a sufficiently determined criminal or state actor is going to be able to get onto the laptop.

So having extensive monitoring on work machines is not because you don't trust your employees --- but because you don't trust that the employee's laptop / mobile device is always going to be under the control of the employee. And if it does get compromised, you want to be able to state with confidence how much data might have gotten compromised, or how much access the criminal or state sponsored attacker might have been able to gain access to.

The fact that it can also be used to find incriminating evidence for back-stabbing employees who are intent on screwing over their employer is just a bonus.

And if he wasn't smart enouh to realize this, I wonder how much Waymo lost and how much Uber gained when they lured him away from Waymo. :-)

Re:Uber and Waymo Reach Settlement by dzhiurgis on Sunday February 11, 2018 @06:38AM (#16352276)
AFAIK the theft was only noticed after supplier noticed that Otto was ordering similar parts as Waymo did, hence notified them.
Re:Uber and Waymo Reach Settlement by wutbrodo on Friday February 09, 2018 @04:58PM (#16344205)
I would imagine that weakening a competitor in their space would be decently correlated with expected return for shareholders. Not sure where you got the idea that the only benefit would be "personal".
Re:Uber and Waymo Reach Settlement by whack on Friday February 09, 2018 @05:03PM (#16344237)
Sure, but I have a hard time imagining that "what happened to Levandowski and Kalanick", as individuals, is going to weaken Uber in the marketplace. If anything, going from Kalanick to Khosrowshahi might have actually helped Uber in the long run.
Re:Uber and Waymo Reach Settlement by kelnos on Friday February 09, 2018 @05:43PM (#16344495)
Yeah, I agree with this. Both Levandowski and Kalanick seem to be incredibly toxic people; removing or lessening their influence on Uber, and replacing them with decent people, would only seem to strengthen Uber's position and reputation going forward.
Re:Uber and Waymo Reach Settlement by chrononaut on Friday February 09, 2018 @06:14PM (#16344647)
Which interestingly circles back to another comment that was made:

> a settlement that requires Uber to do very well to have any value.