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Re:VLC 3.0 release by TheKarateKid on Friday February 09, 2018 @02:28PM (#16343129)
Can someone explain how VLC is able to skirt around codec licensing issues?

How has VLC been able to play mp3s, DVDs, and other media formats natively when other players were forced to pay licensing fees, hence the need to buy media players 10 years ago?

Re:VLC 3.0 release by Signez on Friday February 09, 2018 @02:44PM (#16343250)
The VideoLAN organization behind VLC is based in France; software patents are not recognized in Europe.

Problem solved!

Re:VLC 3.0 release by r00fus on Friday February 09, 2018 @03:51PM (#16343721)
Sure hope that stays intact.

VLC is clear example of lack of patents fostering innovation.

Re:VLC 3.0 release by TheKarateKid on Friday February 09, 2018 @05:48PM (#16344512)
Not quite. If that were the case, piracy sites like TPB would be forever safe in a country that doesn't recognize US copyright. We've all seen how that ends up. I haven't heard of a single attempt of a patent holder to challenge VLC (not that I'm complaining). Also, they're distributing the software to people in countries where those patents are recognized.

LAME hasn't included an mp3 encoder for these same reasons, even though its FOSS software.

I always assumed the reason no one bothered VideoLAN was a combination of the fact that 1.) VLC truly has remained a non-profit project, unlike many other FOSS software that makes money via some kind of business model (ads, premium support, etc.) and (less likely) 2.) everyone loves VLC so much that even the people possibly affected by the licensing don't care because they use it themselves.

Re:VLC 3.0 release by rmccue on Saturday February 10, 2018 @01:46AM (#16346211)
Patents and copyright are two different systems, so there's not really a relation between TPB and VLC.
Re:VLC 3.0 release by TheKarateKid on Sunday February 11, 2018 @01:49PM (#16354082)
How is there no relation? They're both protected forms of IP from the US. If someone in a foreign country violates this, the US makes international efforts to stop it.
Re:VLC 3.0 release by abtinf on Monday February 12, 2018 @01:50AM (#16357007)
The enforcement of rights is a proper function of government. Unfortunately the government does not protect everyone equally.

Copyright holders have formed a few broad, cross-industry associations in order to protect their rights as widely as possible. These organizations represent the combined interests of many powerful people and so are able to exert significant political influence.

There are no equivalent organizations for patents, and the numerous industry bodies that manage licensing are often very small, narrow in scope, and lack the funding to lobby effectively.

Re:VLC 3.0 release by jhasse on Friday February 09, 2018 @03:03PM (#16343396)
Re:VLC 3.0 release by dpkonofa on Friday February 09, 2018 @02:39PM (#16343211)
I think it might be because they engineered their own solutions for decoding those. Licensing fees usually need to be paid out when you use the decoder made by the company. If you figure out the format and roll your own decoder, though, I think you don't have to pay licensing fees, especially when the software is non-commercial. You can't pay for VLC so there's no damages.
Re:VLC 3.0 release by eesmith on Friday February 09, 2018 @04:18PM (#16343901)
What you described applies to copyright. Patent licensing is different.

There can be damages even for no-cost software because it isn't measured by the profits or earnings from the software but by the market loss on other software profits.

Re:VLC 3.0 release by qualitytime on Friday February 09, 2018 @02:51PM (#16343303)
Backdoors.