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Re:How and Why Athletes Go Broke (2009) by manigandham on Friday February 09, 2018 @01:27PM (#16342605)
It's called personal responsibility. They're earning sums that many will never reach and it's on them to figure out what to do with it. Nobody is stopping them from asking for help and it's not like there aren't enough examples to learn from by now.

Someone who doesn't have responsibility can't be forced into it.

Re:How and Why Athletes Go Broke (2009) by jpindar on Friday February 09, 2018 @01:51PM (#16342849)
And the NFL tries to provide that help, by making rookies listen to lectures about managing their finances. But while you can make them listen to advice, you can't force them to follow it.
Re:How and Why Athletes Go Broke (2009) by watwut on Friday February 09, 2018 @02:54PM (#16343330)
You can definitely raise children for more responsibility or away from it. If a lot of top sportmen can't manage finance, that would suggest that there is something about the system that raises them (they spend more time on sport then anything else) that is that way.

Which would suggest that responsible parent won't put children into such system.

Re:How and Why Athletes Go Broke (2009) by specialist on Friday February 09, 2018 @04:39PM (#16344065)
So now naivety (ignorance) is a moral failing?
Re:How and Why Athletes Go Broke (2009) by manigandham on Friday February 09, 2018 @05:09PM (#16344280)
No, who said anything about right or wrong here? What I said is responsibility. If you're naive/ignorant/otherwise unprepared then the answer is to ask for help and learn so you can be better prepared. That would be best for your future but it's ultimately up to you and nobody else really cares what you do.
Re:How and Why Athletes Go Broke (2009) by mfringel on Friday February 09, 2018 @06:34PM (#16344769)
You didn't say "responsibility", you said "personal responsibility". "Personal" implies that they should take sole responsibility for their circumstances, ignoring any other agents involved.

So, yes, it does appear you're talking about right and wrong.

Re:How and Why Athletes Go Broke (2009) by manigandham on Friday February 09, 2018 @06:52PM (#16344862)
What a strange interpretation. Did you read the entire thread?

The comment I was originally responding to said teams "should require [athletes] to sign a consent form for arms-length management of their capital" which I absolutely don't agree with because they are adults who can choose for themselves. And yes, it's personal because it's their money and their choice to either spend it or do something else.

I don't care what or how they do it, and there's no inherent wrong or right involved. It's their paycheck and they can do whatever they want with it... but taking away their agency in the first place doesn't solve anything and certainly doesn't magically teach better decision making in the future.

Re:How and Why Athletes Go Broke (2009) by specialist on Friday February 09, 2018 @08:10PM (#16345221)
The phrase "personal responsibility" has decades of rhetorical baggage, from long use as a dog whistle by the USA's political right.

Going with the principle of charity: I apologize for assuming you were using "personal responsibility" as a bludgeon.