Re:The rise and fall of 18F
by grepthisab on Thursday February 08, 2018 @12:12PM
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Woah, in all seriousness please let me know where $161k + great benefits is "hundreds of thousands" lower than similar private sector SWE jobs in total comp. I will be applying today. (I'm obviously assuming you're not comparing compensation for a swe at 18F with head of BeyondCorp or something, because that would be disingenuous and you seem like a reasonable person)
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You can use Facebook's annual report to find that the average annual stock based compensation at Facebook is around $188k. That's real, liquid stock that you can turn around and sell. It's not monopoly money. Add salary and bonus and you're well over $300k in total compensation.
Is it hard to believe that some are going to be hitting more than $200k above the 18F numbers?
Note that we're comparing the absolute max for GS employees to the average at Facebook.
> Is it hard to believe that some are going to be hitting more than $200k above the 18F numbers?
"Some people at Facebook" is a much smaller set than "quite a few private sector jobs", which the statement GP was responding to.
Some people at Facebook can be extended to some people at other companies too. I specifically picked a large, visible example where the information is publicly available.
Perhaps GP misread "quite a few private sector jobs" as "most private sector jobs"?
Re:The rise and fall of 18F
by mtberatwork on Thursday February 08, 2018 @12:28PM
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"hundreds of thousands" is a bit of a stretch, but SWE w/security clearance at a small outfit will net you significantly more. Lots of tiny PO Box'd contractors around DC.
Funny, in 15 years as a SwE with a clearance (not in DC) I never broke $100k total comp.
Also, "hundreds of thousands" is a gross exaggeration. Most software engineers nationwide don't make that to begin with.
Re:The rise and fall of 18F
by mtberatwork on Thursday February 08, 2018 @01:00PM
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> SwE with a clearance (not in DC) I never broke $100k total comp
YMMV of course, but even without a clearance you are selling yourself short here.
I wasn't selling myself anything. I could barely get non-government contractors to even give me an interview, and nobody in the government space offered me anywhere near that much. I managed to get to $95k via same-company salary progression before I escaped to the private sector (and a better metro area).