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Re:Designing Windows 95’s User Interface by einr on Wednesday February 07, 2018 @06:11AM (#16323683)
There absolutely was TCP/IP support in Windows 95 from the very beginning. It was not installed by default but it was trivial to add via the Network applet in Control Panel. SLIP/PPP was also supported and you had basic utilities like Telnet and FTP included so you could connect to the Internet right out of the box.

No web browser, though. Internet Explorer 1.0 shipped with the optional Plus! pack.

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Re:Designing Windows 95’s User Interface by smoyer on Wednesday February 07, 2018 @07:01AM (#16323846)
Since a large part of my work involved building networks of pre-DOCSIS cable modems at the time, I can tell you that the first Windows to support TCP/IP was Windows 3.11 (Windows for WorkGroups). This was carried into Windows 95 and by Windows 98 there was even Internet Explorer.
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Re:Designing Windows 95’s User Interface by dfox on Wednesday February 07, 2018 @12:12PM (#16326028)
But in windows 3.11 the TCP stack was not part of the installation or even on the installation media, it had to be installed separately together with win32s. In Windows 95 IIRC everything you needed for TCP/IP was on the installation media.
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Re:Designing Windows 95’s User Interface by zwieback on Wednesday February 07, 2018 @11:26AM (#16325514)
...and it had preemptively multitasking 32 bit drivers, we built a Mac (AppleTalk) server product on top of that with pretty good performance. 3.11 was a huge step forward.
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Re:Designing Windows 95’s User Interface by narag on Wednesday February 07, 2018 @07:51AM (#16324051)
For some reason we used Trumpet stack. Could it be that OS stack didn't work very well at first?
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Re:Designing Windows 95’s User Interface by da_chicken on Wednesday February 07, 2018 @09:44AM (#16324678)
Probably inertia. Windows 3.0 and 3.1 didn't ship with a TCP/IP stack. You had to either have something like Trumpet or install Internet Explorer 2.1 (which, AFAIK, was a separate purchase) to get Winsock. Or you could try to use DOS drivers. Even Windows for Workgroups 3.1 only shipped with NetBEUI and IPX/SPX. It wasn't until Windows for Workgroups 3.11 that the OS shipped with TCP/IP.
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Re:Designing Windows 95’s User Interface by cr0sh on Wednesday February 07, 2018 @11:20AM (#16325464)
> There absolutely was TCP/IP support in Windows 95 from the very beginning.

I could have sworn that was all in the Plus! package too, but 20+ years of time has eroded my memory on that...

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Re:Designing Windows 95’s User Interface by tinus_hn on Wednesday February 07, 2018 @01:31PM (#16326790)
The browser was in the Plus! package.
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Re:Designing Windows 95’s User Interface by russellbeattie on Wednesday February 07, 2018 @06:25AM (#16323735)
Yes, you're right. I misremembered it.
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