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Re:Apple's Middle Age by bryanlarsen on Monday February 05, 2018 @10:02AM (#16309127)
IMO, that's more to do with Intel than to do with Microsoft and Apple. Sandy Bridge, released in 2011, was the last Intel processor that was more than 10% faster than previous generations. We used to see ~25% generational speedups from Intel. Since 2011 we've only seen 5-10% speedups.
Re:Apple's Middle Age by mjburgess on Monday February 05, 2018 @10:04AM (#16309143)
People talk about the downsides of this. But it does mean all the tech you buy today is going to be useable in 10ys. That's quite a win.
Re:Apple's Middle Age by carlmr on Monday February 05, 2018 @10:09AM (#16309179)
Capitalism hates it though if there's no reason to sell new devices. Although I think we still have a lot of headroom in terms of memory performance that will matter just as much as the previous CPU performance increases.
Re:Apple's Middle Age by bhauer on Monday February 05, 2018 @11:18AM (#16309718)
> Capitalism hates it though if there's no reason to sell new devices.

"Capitalism" (the free market) is us. And I for one do "hate" that CPU performance is not increasing as rapidly as it did in the past. I would very much like to see a return of significant generational performance improvements. I would happily upgrade my PC more often if it resulted in the significant gains of yesteryear.

I find it a curious asceticism to cherish stagnant technology because it means my 5-year old PC is still relevant. Yeah, that's the silver lining. But let's be real: if you had a PC that was twice as fast in every performance dimension that I could afford today, I would buy it.

Re:Apple's Middle Age by felipeko on Monday February 05, 2018 @10:51AM (#16309508)
Only the companies that sell the devices hate it. For every other entity it is a win as more money will be available to be spent on something else.
Re:Apple's Middle Age by simonh on Monday February 05, 2018 @10:59AM (#16309568)
Companies that get a competitive advantage or can command a premium from selling long lived products don't hate it at all. It's the core of their business model.
Re:Apple's Middle Age by simonh on Monday February 05, 2018 @10:57AM (#16309551)
If the longevity of a product is a selling point, can provide a competitive advantage or help capture a premium then Capitalism is absolutely fine with it.
Re:Apple's Middle Age by namelost on Monday February 05, 2018 @10:22AM (#16309269)
The future is heterogeneous computing. Intel's chips already include a GPU, the next step will be FPGAs.
Re:Apple's Middle Age by Shikadi on Monday February 05, 2018 @11:16AM (#16309706)
I can see it now: "Facebook now offers faster news feed rendering for PCs equipped with Intel 10 series FPGAs!"

Kidding of course, but I think the FPGA/CPU combos will be more relevant to servers than end users, at least initially. FPGA high level synthesis is miles away from being useful for consumer level application acceleration, and GPUs are much more accessible

Re:Apple's Middle Age by arximboldi on Monday February 05, 2018 @10:05AM (#16309155)
Well, when I was using Windows more than 10 years ago... formatting your computer every 2 years was a good way to maintain performance, otherwise it would just slow down due to disk fragmentation + crapware accumulation. On Linux I could also just install the OS once and use it until I upgraded the machine... like in 6 years.
Re:Apple's Middle Age by bryanlarsen on Monday February 05, 2018 @10:38AM (#16309387)
When I was using Linux more than 10 years ago I didn't even format my disks when upgrading my machine, I just moved the boot drive from the old machine to the new one.

OTOH, I've reformatted my 2012 Linux machine twice since I purchased it, which is twice more than I've formatted my Windows machine over the same period. Granted my Linux box is much more heavily used, but...

Re:Apple's Middle Age by Shikadi on Monday February 05, 2018 @11:18AM (#16309724)
Sounds like you must be using Ubuntu :P
Re:Apple's Middle Age by bryanlarsen on Monday February 05, 2018 @11:37AM (#16309904)
Got it in one.