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Re:Ask HN: Is it time to leave Google? by jmalicki on Sunday February 04, 2018 @12:30AM (#16301510)
Why aren't you creating something interesting? Good careers don't go to those waiting to be handed a golden egg.. understand the business, understand innovative technology, and connect them, and the world will be your oyster.

If management won't let you understand enough of the business to do so, I sympathize, I've been there. But if you're allowed to understand the business and are expecting someone else to come up with the innovation, you just need to get your shit together and be an engineer.

Re:Ask HN: Is it time to leave Google? by cyphunk on Sunday February 04, 2018 @09:37AM (#16302865)
> Why aren't you creating something interesting? Good careers don't go to those waiting to be handed a golden egg.

It sounds like you're implying that to work on innonvative projects one has to have the mind of an entrepreneur. While it's not a bad mind to have I don't think utilization of ones skills in a meaningful and interesting way should depend on that?

Re:Ask HN: Is it time to leave Google? by kj65557 on Sunday February 04, 2018 @12:35AM (#16301522)
I see what you mean, but getting approval to make changes is challenging in this particular department.
Re:Ask HN: Is it time to leave Google? by jmalicki on Sunday February 04, 2018 @12:39AM (#16301537)
Also, if you're not getting approval, maybe you need to work on connecting your ideas to business value a bit more...
Re:Ask HN: Is it time to leave Google? by kj65557 on Sunday February 04, 2018 @12:49AM (#16301561)
That's true. I'm still new to this org so things might change
Re:Ask HN: Is it time to leave Google? by UncleMeat on Sunday February 04, 2018 @04:47AM (#16302096)
That's gonna be hard anywhere. Writing a proposal and convincing stakeholders is a skill to develop. It is never going to be trivial.
Re:Ask HN: Is it time to leave Google? by jmalicki on Sunday February 04, 2018 @12:37AM (#16301532)
As Grace Hopper said, it's easier to ask for forgiveness than permission. That's generally a motto for people who get shit done.