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Re:CSS Grid changes everything [video] by daotoad on Friday February 02, 2018 @12:30PM (#16292320)
I've used grid with IE11. You need to add some extra prefixing noise to your css. The way you identify grid elements is different and it sucks to duplicate the layout information.

But it most definitely works.

Re:CSS Grid changes everything [video] by cvsh on Friday February 02, 2018 @05:02PM (#16294556)
It doesn't with IE10 though. And there's no way to fall back to flex or another column system.

Which means, if you need to support IE10, you need a whole parallel set of styles. There's no graceful degradation when it comes to overall site layout, unless you're willing to serve the single-column mobile version to older browsers.

Re:CSS Grid changes everything [video] by Sammi on Saturday February 03, 2018 @06:39AM (#16297226)
The only two Windows version you can run into Microsoft supported versions of IE 10 any more are on Windows Server 2012 and Windows Embedded 8: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/gp/microsoft-internet-ex...

Who in the world has that as a significant user base?

Re:CSS Grid changes everything [video] by _betty_ on Friday February 02, 2018 @08:27PM (#16295583)
what's wrong with giving older browsers a different experience?
Re:CSS Grid changes everything [video] by ataylor32 on Friday February 02, 2018 @09:43PM (#16295838)
One scenario I can think of is a non-IE user telling an IE user to go to a particular website and click the button that's at the top of the right sidebar. For the IE user, it might be a stacked layout where the sidebar actually appears under the main content. I would call this a nuisance more so than a major issue, but nevertheless it is something to consider.
Re:CSS Grid changes everything [video] by _betty_ on Saturday February 03, 2018 @04:53AM (#16296958)
you'd have the same issue between a desktop and mobile user. i don't see it as an issue at all.
Re:CSS Grid changes everything [video] by ataylor32 on Monday February 05, 2018 @10:27PM (#16314229)
I think the average computer user knows that websites often look different on computers vs. phones, so they might be confused when a website looks different than normal on a computer. Like I said, I would only call this a nuisance. Certainly not a big deal.
Re:CSS Grid changes everything [video] by JeanMarcS on Friday February 02, 2018 @10:02PM (#16295896)
I think it depends of if you need trafic from those browser or not. Because if you do, you'll have to maintain several version, or increase your time on working on it to do gracefull degradation (which is of course a good way to do, but more expensive)
Re:CSS Grid changes everything [video] by _betty_ on Saturday February 03, 2018 @04:54AM (#16296962)
but that's kind of the beauty of css grid, the gracefull fallback is basically mobile view which you already put effort into.