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Re:How does ‘class-passing’ actually work? by Retric on Thursday February 01, 2018 @02:46PM (#16285178)
I work with plenty of people that may put in a "hard" 2-3 hours of actual work a day. Comparing effort and every poor person I grew up with actually worked really hard.

If anything it's coded language for 'working hard is a great way to end up poor'.

PS: Consider all the "hardworking" people here on HN. Yes, long hours may be expected, but effort has little direct benefit.

Re:How does ‘class-passing’ actually work? by dionidium on Thursday February 01, 2018 @10:40PM (#16288216)
No doubt. They are hard workers, hustlers (in the best sense of the word), scammers, grifters, and some of the laziest folks I've ever met -- and everything in between.

They're just people. When the upper-classes talk about the poor as all good or all bad it's always in the context of selling you their politics.

Re:How does ‘class-passing’ actually work? by ShabbosGoy on Thursday February 01, 2018 @03:24PM (#16285523)
There’s a difference between working hard and working smart. One is the brute force solution. The other uses a heuristic to narrow the solution space.
Re:How does ‘class-passing’ actually work? by emodendroket on Thursday February 01, 2018 @04:05PM (#16285880)
I think the point here is that in white-collar workplaces long hours are mostly an abstract way of signaling that you take the job seriously, not exhausting in the way that long hours in a job demanding physical labor would be.
Re:How does ‘class-passing’ actually work? by gbacon on Thursday February 01, 2018 @04:24PM (#16286044)
There are different kinds of tired — physically exhausted, brain-fried, and emotionally spent — but I’m not making any sort of comparison between them.
Re:How does ‘class-passing’ actually work? by emodendroket on Thursday February 01, 2018 @04:27PM (#16286068)
Yeah, but the guy who always stays after at work, how much of his time is work and how much of it is browsing Reddit?
Re:How does ‘class-passing’ actually work? by gbacon on Thursday February 01, 2018 @05:23PM (#16286494)
Fair question. Is that person slacking, projecting, coping, or percolating?
Re:How does ‘class-passing’ actually work? by ShabbosGoy on Thursday February 01, 2018 @05:51PM (#16286719)
They’re signaling to management. Plain and simple.