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Re:Why Create a New Unix Shell? by zokier on Wednesday January 31, 2018 @04:21PM (#16277661)
> Another interesting shell to check out is elvish, lots of new ideas there (even if awkward to use).

Elvish is pretty nifty, but the biggest failing point to me is that the fancy rich pipelines really work just for in-process stuff, which for me kinda loses the point of being a shell. Of course I do realize that rich (polyglot) interprocess pipelines is a difficult problem; some might say a pipedream.

Re:Why Create a New Unix Shell? by xiaq on Wednesday January 31, 2018 @11:06PM (#16279575)
Interprocess pipeline is a difficult problem only because there is no standard encoding. Elvish has pairs of builtin commands like from-json and to-json; so if your command takes JSON and writes JSON, you can use it in a pipeline like:

    ... | to-json | your-command | from-json | ...
It is also trivial to wrap it into a function like:

    fn f { to-json | your-command | from-json }
Re:Why Create a New Unix Shell? by watersb on Thursday February 01, 2018 @05:43AM (#16280868)
PowerShell on Windows is the only production system that I have used which passes "objects" through pipes.

It's a challenge for me to use well; not sure all that richness is composable. Better programmers than I am would know.