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Re:“You're on the verge of losing everything but you don’t u... by sreaching on Wednesday January 31, 2018 @06:55AM (#16273179)
The official method for estimating fraud rates is take a very small sample of claims, review the paper work and conduct an interview. of course this is never going to catch the majority of fraud!

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Re:“You're on the verge of losing everything but you don’t u... by vidarh on Wednesday January 31, 2018 @08:54AM (#16273785)
Of course they'll never be perfect, but the official estimate would need to be off by at least an order of magnitude for it to matter vs. the harm done by government.

If it's that far off, there's at least half a dozen editors of major UK papers that'd be rubbing their hands in glee at the opportunity to further demonize benefits claimants by exposing more benefits cheats and/or by exposing flaws in the reporting. That this isn't happening despite both commercial and ideological gain to be had in doing it if they could, is to me a strong indication that the numbers aren't that far off.

Re:“You're on the verge of losing everything but you don’t u... by michaelmrose on Wednesday January 31, 2018 @08:27AM (#16273628)
If the sample is randomly chosen shouldn't it have proportionally as much fraud as the overall system?
Re:“You're on the verge of losing everything but you don’t u... by vidarh on Wednesday January 31, 2018 @08:56AM (#16273798)
I think the suggestion is that they'd be unable to detect it in many cases. And that's a fair point - of course some portion of fraudulent claimants will succeed in hiding it. I just don't think it's likely to be a sufficient portion to make much difference.