Xi: an editor for the next 20 years [video]

Re:Xi: an editor for the next 20 years [video] by TheAceOfHearts on Wednesday January 31, 2018 @02:55AM (#16272258)

Have you tried Terminal.app recently? A lot of people seem to rush immediately to iTerm2... And I used to be one of those, a few years back. But eventually I gave the built-in Terminal.app a serious chance and found it met all my requirements. Although I also stopped customizing my theme, and I keep as many defaults as possible. SF Mono is a great font!

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Re:Xi: an editor for the next 20 years [video] by MaxBarraclough on Wednesday January 31, 2018 @06:46AM (#16273147)

I did the same thing a few years ago. Terminal.app has had tab support for years now. What's the killer feature of iTerm these days?

I also recall finding Terminal.app to have lower CPU consumption, matching postit's experience.

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Re:Xi: an editor for the next 20 years [video] by rdrey on Wednesday January 31, 2018 @10:28AM (#16274549)

The killer feature for me was setting an "alarm" on a currently running process and getting a notification when it finished. It's not something I've seen in any other terminal. (Using Ubuntu now and missing it.)

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Re:Xi: an editor for the next 20 years [video] by arjunbajaj on Wednesday January 31, 2018 @11:38AM (#16275144)

I believe Elementary OS's terminal has this in-built.

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Re:Xi: an editor for the next 20 years [video] by jhasse on Wednesday January 31, 2018 @06:58PM (#16278678)

Fedora has this, too.

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Re:Xi: an editor for the next 20 years [video] by lambdadmitry on Wednesday January 31, 2018 @07:14AM (#16273252)

Quake-style console. I'm too addicted to it unfortunately.

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Re:Xi: an editor for the next 20 years [video] by girvo on Friday February 02, 2018 @10:05AM (#16291030)

Literally the only reason why I use iTerm 2 over Terminal.app as well. Though I'm tempted to see if I can't replicate a similar "show over anything when a hotkey is pressed" in Terminal.app with some cute AppleScript...

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Re:Xi: an editor for the next 20 years [video] by haskal on Wednesday January 31, 2018 @10:27PM (#16279460)

1. When you exit a terminal it dumps irrelevant stuff rather than just closing the tab.

    ~ % exit 
    
    [Process completed]

2. Cmd + Arrow doesn't doesn't move to the next or last tab. (Cmd + number does work however, but it doesn't show numbers on the tab list like iTerm)

3. Comes with terrible defaults like the screen color.

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Re:Xi: an editor for the next 20 years [video] by Jakob on Thursday February 01, 2018 @05:20AM (#16280743)

There certainly are some advantages of iTerm2 but the ones you stated are very easily done in Terminal.app:

1. Settings > Profiles > Shell > When the shell exits: [Close the window|Close if the shell exited early|Don’t close the window]

2. macOS standard for all applications is the following.

  - next tab: ⌃⇥ or ⌘⇧]
  - previous tab: ⌃⇧⇥ or ⌘⇧[

If you really want to change that, you can do so in System Preferences

3. Settings > New window with profile: Pro

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Re:Xi: an editor for the next 20 years [video] by latexr on Wednesday January 31, 2018 @08:06AM (#16273504)

Probably not a big feature for most, but I work with URLs in the terminal a lot and ⌘+click to immediately open them in the browser is convenient.

I prefer to open a new Terminal only when I need it instead of keeping one open all day (even if that sometimes happens) and I’ve never noticed an increase in CPU usage that’d made me want to check.

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Re:Xi: an editor for the next 20 years [video] by bluerobotcat on Wednesday January 31, 2018 @08:50AM (#16273766)

Terminal.app does that too

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Re:Xi: an editor for the next 20 years [video] by latexr on Friday February 02, 2018 @01:12PM (#16292690)

You have to double-click and pressing ⌘ gives no visual feedback. That explains why I didn’t find it before. Thank you for the tip.

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Re:Xi: an editor for the next 20 years [video] by leshow on Wednesday January 31, 2018 @01:42PM (#16276332)

scoff how dare you use a mouse. In urxvt I have it mapped to ctrl+u

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Re:Xi: an editor for the next 20 years [video] by stormking on Thursday February 01, 2018 @05:16AM (#16280728)

> What's the killer feature of iTerm these days?

Panes.

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Re:Xi: an editor for the next 20 years [video] by dmytrish on Thursday February 01, 2018 @08:01AM (#16281536)

I don't use panes much, but Terminal.app seems to have panes too.

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Re:Xi: an editor for the next 20 years [video] by eropple on Thursday February 01, 2018 @11:32AM (#16283154)

- Bafflingly, they split horizontally. I have a 4x4 pane setup, but my default is 2x1.

- Cmd-W closes the window, not the pane. (I get why they do this. I feel that it is wrong.)

- I can't send input to all panes, which is a pretty useful feature I probably use once a week.

- iTerm2 happily maps my panes to tmux. This is by itself perhaps a killer feature.

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Re:Xi: an editor for the next 20 years [video] by dmytrish on Monday February 05, 2018 @12:01PM (#16310110)

Thanks! I feel the same about "tmux vs screen": tmux panes are just so much easier to use and more flexible than in screen, even though screen can split windows).

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Re:Xi: an editor for the next 20 years [video] by brazzledazzle on Wednesday January 31, 2018 @09:38AM (#16274128)

I really like the tmux integration.

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Re:Xi: an editor for the next 20 years [video] by coldtea on Wednesday January 31, 2018 @07:24AM (#16273314)

>found it met all my requirements. Although I also stopped customizing my theme, and I keep as many defaults as possible

Well, if your requirements are low and the defaults are OK, sure, Terminal.app can do it. But iTerm2 does so many more things it's not even funny.

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Re:Xi: an editor for the next 20 years [video] by spinningarrow on Wednesday January 31, 2018 @06:37AM (#16273117)

I still can’t get 256 colours working properly in tmux in Terminal.app - any idea if that’s supported?

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Re:Xi: an editor for the next 20 years [video] by fergie on Wednesday January 31, 2018 @10:04AM (#16274313)

Terminal with GNU Screen works really well for me.

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