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Re:After alleged 'bait and switch,' Nevada DMV cancels $78M ... by us0r on Tuesday January 30, 2018 @09:01PM (#16270745)
EDIT: NV always responds really fast to info requests but this one is taking a while. I specifically asked for reference letters with everything else. Who ever filled in the info on the BOE meeting clearly lied. They've had a contract with another state and my guess is unhealthy.

http://purchasing.nv.gov/uploadedFiles/purchasingnvgov/conte...

They want something "cloud ready" yet acquired $600,000 of Oracle cloud licenses (what ever that is)?

"The Department purchased and received Oracle hardware, Oracle Software, Network and security Hardware and Software, and the Oracle Cloud Software. The hardware is located in both the Department's Carson City and Las Vegas (Flamingo) server rooms. To-date, the purchase cost for hardware and software is $11,408,412.

The cost breakdown is as follows: 1. Oracle Hardware - $3,000,000 2. Oracle Software - $5,900,000 3. Oracle Cloud Subscription - $618,000 4. Security-Network software and hardware - $1,890,412

Total Costs $11,408,412"

http://budget.nv.gov/uploadedFiles/budgetnvgov/content/Meeti...

Page 262. "This is a new contract to provide, design and implement a new system to replace the existing and aging client server application. The modernization of the current system will provide better customer service, reduce transaction processing time, increase speed-to-market of NV DMV products and services, enhance security and reduce system backlog"

Very clever choice of words. I'll bet the board who approved that contract didn't know they signed a contract for nothing.

From their own site:

https://www.techmahindra.com/media/press_releases/TechMahind...

"The solution will be migrated to the Oracle technology stack"

So they are going to migrate 4 years worth of Dynamics customizations (which aren't even working) to the Oracle technology stack. Right. No shit they didn't even show up.

Re:After alleged 'bait and switch,' Nevada DMV cancels $78M ... by inferiorhuman on Tuesday January 30, 2018 @09:32PM (#16270871)
> They want something "cloud ready" yet acquired $600,000 of Oracle cloud licenses (what ever that is)?

Chatting with a former coworker and apparently Oracle has their own (dysfunctional) cloud offering these days.

Re:After alleged 'bait and switch,' Nevada DMV cancels $78M ... by thisisit on Tuesday January 30, 2018 @10:58PM (#16271159)
They have been using some ugly tactics to market it too:

http://www.businessinsider.com/oracle-customer-explains-audi...

Quote from the article:

Oracle has been threatening customers with big bills for software they're using but it says they haven't properly paid for, Craig Guarente, CEO of Oracle asset-management consultant Palisade Compliance, previously told Business Insider.

Then Oracle makes the threat go away if the customer buys credits for cloud services, according to the consultant's description of the tactic.

Re:After alleged 'bait and switch,' Nevada DMV cancels $78M ... by sitharus on Tuesday January 30, 2018 @10:25PM (#16271043)
They even have a fleet of branded cars they drive around competitor's events to promote themselves: https://twitter.com/Oracle/status/935647345823309830

They promise to cut your Amazon bill in half. I guess they have scissors.

Re:After alleged 'bait and switch,' Nevada DMV cancels $78M ... by matwood on Tuesday January 30, 2018 @11:10PM (#16271216)
> Chatting with a former coworker and apparently Oracle has their own (dysfunctional) cloud offering these days.

I think that's right. I keep getting emails from Oracle sales claiming they are going to save me tons of money if I move my cloud to workload to them. When has Oracle ever saved someone money?

Re:After alleged 'bait and switch,' Nevada DMV cancels $78M ... by megaman22 on Tuesday January 30, 2018 @09:55PM (#16270963)
Yes indeed. I know a couple of Oracle salespeople, and they appear to be pushing it hard - they were giving insane incentive bonuses for selling cloud subscription signups until recently. Not sure that they're really making inroads though.
Re:After alleged 'bait and switch,' Nevada DMV cancels $78M ... by tajen on Tuesday January 30, 2018 @09:26PM (#16270842)
Is this decision so bad that it’s highlighting a potential red flag for a bribe between Oracle and managers of this company? « Probable cause » warrant investigations in other areas, wondering about this one.
Re:After alleged 'bait and switch,' Nevada DMV cancels $78M ... by us0r on Tuesday January 30, 2018 @09:36PM (#16270884)
Personally I have no doubt someone has a job offer at oracle or two people are exchanging envelopes. If the vendor suggested Oracle maybe not but since it was someone at the DMV, 100%. I'm about 90% sure Oracle isn't even fully implemented in any DMV.
Re:After alleged 'bait and switch,' Nevada DMV cancels $78M ... by toomuchtodo on Tuesday January 30, 2018 @09:45PM (#16270915)
Well done sleuthing!