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Re:GDPR and Google Analytics by ysv2 on Tuesday January 30, 2018 @02:47AM (#16263604)
> the EU is saying "You can't do these things to our citizens without their explicit consent, and we will punish you if you do, regardless of where you host your website."

The EU has neither the right nor the ability to deliver on that threat. I will continue to ignore the GDPR, as I ignore the ridiculous cookie laws, without worrying about European police raiding my home at night.

Re:GDPR and Google Analytics by harryf on Tuesday January 30, 2018 @02:51AM (#16263614)
Looking at the EUs antitrust fine for Google - https://www.google.ch/amp/s/www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/artic... it's clear it does have the ability. The message is "you want to profit from EU citizens? You follow the rules"
Re:GDPR and Google Analytics by ysv2 on Tuesday January 30, 2018 @02:59AM (#16263650)
No, you're confused. Google has a physical presence and business partners in Europe; I do not. (Profiting from EU citizens is beside the point.)
Re:GDPR and Google Analytics by akie on Tuesday January 30, 2018 @03:37AM (#16263786)
Yeah, but what would you do if the EU decides that you cannot sell your product in the EU?
Re:GDPR and Google Analytics by ysv2 on Tuesday January 30, 2018 @03:56AM (#16263865)
I would continue to do nothing special to support the EU's provincial laws. If EU citizens want to send me money, fine. If the EU decides to block its citizens from doing so, that's also fine.

But I will take no actions on my end to implement EU laws, and it's laughable that some people in this thread imagine the EU has the power to coerce me to do so.

Re:GDPR and Google Analytics by miracle2k on Tuesday January 30, 2018 @06:01AM (#16264327)
Well, if they really really wanted it, they might be able penalize you. How about everytime you travel, make sure the country won't extradite you. How about your employees? Is that risk acceptable and fair to them?

I don't like what is happening here, but when people want a particular outcome strong enough, they tend set aside more principled concerns.

Re:GDPR and Google Analytics by mrintegrity on Tuesday January 30, 2018 @04:34AM (#16264021)
Will you be traveling to an EU country at any point in your life? Imagine fines are levied against you or your company and you refuse or ignore them and continue to operate as before. Could cause you trouble at the border
Re:GDPR and Google Analytics by doikor on Tuesday January 30, 2018 @02:58AM (#16263647)
Against small companies with almost no footprint in EU maybe. But against huge multinational corporations that want access to the 500m+ people market they sure can.
Re:GDPR and Google Analytics by ysv2 on Tuesday January 30, 2018 @03:02AM (#16263661)
Exactly, that's the distinction.
Re:GDPR and Google Analytics by kuschku on Tuesday January 30, 2018 @03:42AM (#16263808)
What is your website? And which bank do you happen to use for your company and personally?

Enforcing laws internationally is easy, considering that there are systems designed to allow the police of one country to freeze the assets of citizen of another country.

You might just wake up one morning with your bank accounts frozen and your credit cards revoked if you violate the GDPR.

Governments have previously seized entire airplanes to pay for a single $500 fee that an airline refused to pay, don't expect it won't happen to you.

Re:GDPR and Google Analytics by ysv2 on Tuesday January 30, 2018 @04:08AM (#16263905)
> You might just wake up one morning with your bank accounts frozen and your credit cards revoked if you violate the GDPR.

Please, spare me. I'm no more worried about EU laws than I am about China seizing my accounts for mentioning Tiananmen Square. You overestimate the EU's reach.