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Re:GDPR and Google Analytics by TomasEkeli on Tuesday January 30, 2018 @01:47AM (#16263356)
It's not their money, it's if you store or process personal data about individuals in the European Economic Area (slightly larger than the EU).

If you're running a Chinese site aimed at Chinese you're good.

If you're running an Indonesian site aimed at Germans you need to honour the GDPR.

Re:GDPR and Google Analytics by xxs on Tuesday January 30, 2018 @01:59AM (#16263401)
You don't need any personal data to conduct most of the business.

I work in a place that would be beyond heavily affected by GDPR and I find the legislation a good change as companies should not hoard data they don't need - just in case... or just to sell.

Re:GDPR and Google Analytics by Shoothe on Tuesday January 30, 2018 @02:18AM (#16263485)
Wouldn't you need personal data to accept payments? Or maybe a broker (like Stripe) would store these and the end business just a reference to payment.
Re:GDPR and Google Analytics by xxs on Tuesday January 30, 2018 @03:56AM (#16263866)
You can get external ref to payment providers. Depending on the business you might need KYC and anti laundering procedures and then it's harder.

However if you have some direct business and do accept payments - by all means make it secure and transparent to your customers.

Re:GDPR and Google Analytics by smu on Tuesday January 30, 2018 @11:01AM (#16266306)
In lawyers terms: a payment apparently is just a contract. So you can store the data needed for the payment under that legal basis.

IANAL

Re:GDPR and Google Analytics by x0x0 on Tuesday January 30, 2018 @01:52AM (#16263377)
Probably... not really? Maybe?

For starters, if you don't take payment and aren't in the EU, EU enforcement power is going to be extraordinarily limited. And even if you do require payment, if you don't have a physical nexus in the EU, it's unclear what exactly the EU can do?

I think the GDPR was basically aimed at some of the scummier adtech practices and businesses like Facebook, and for those, it will be very enforceable.

Re:GDPR and Google Analytics by doikor on Tuesday January 30, 2018 @03:05AM (#16263677)
> And even if you do require payment, if you don't have a physical nexus in the EU, it's unclear what exactly the EU can do?

You need an EU VAT ID to accepts payments from EU citizens. So they will revoke that and then you can't accept payments from EU.

Re:GDPR and Google Analytics by tatersolid on Tuesday January 30, 2018 @08:59AM (#16265277)
> You need an EU VAT ID to accepts payments from EU citizens.

This was mentioned before: No, you don’t.

Millions of business around the world accept transactions from EU citizens every day without collecting any VAT or having any relationship with the EU.

Re:GDPR and Google Analytics by yetanother1980 on Tuesday January 30, 2018 @01:54AM (#16263381)
Why are you storing and processing their data if not for profit?
Re:GDPR and Google Analytics by x0x0 on Tuesday January 30, 2018 @01:56AM (#16263390)
personal data in the GDPR has a very expansive definition, and definitely includes things like IP. Processing likewise has an expansive definition, including collection and recording. Lots of sites will be processing and storing this data for internal analytics.
Re:GDPR and Google Analytics by guitarbill on Tuesday January 30, 2018 @02:14AM (#16263468)
> Lots of sites will be processing and storing this data for internal analytics.

Just because you can doesn't mean you should. And not asking that questions has got us where we are today.

Re:GDPR and Google Analytics by yetanother1980 on Tuesday January 30, 2018 @02:32AM (#16263550)
Did your customers consent to what is effectively someone following them round the store with a clipboard?
Re:GDPR and Google Analytics by bjl on Tuesday January 30, 2018 @08:14AM (#16264945)
So just don't do internal analytics. Or, if you feel you must, ask consent first. Easy peasy.