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Re:How a malicious seed generation website stole $4M by kylell on Monday January 29, 2018 @02:07AM (#16255854)
do anyone prosecute this kind of hacks? or just because is a token without legal status is like stealing Sheldon's gear in WOW.

This kind of pre-generated seed hack is quite dangerous, a lot of mobile apps, don't have deterministic build so you can't be sure the open source version is the same as the one from apple store, and I bet Apple won't do such a thoroughly search.

Re:How a malicious seed generation website stole $4M by abusoufiyan on Monday January 29, 2018 @03:19AM (#16256136)
considering how rabidly most cryptocurrency supporters denounce the government and the banking system and wall street and evil regulations, you would think they would be livid at the idea of a government(!) prosecuting people for anything related to cryptocurrency.
Re:How a malicious seed generation website stole $4M by JustFinishedBSG on Monday January 29, 2018 @04:41AM (#16256469)
A statist is just a libertarian who had his crypto stolen :)
Re:How a malicious seed generation website stole $4M by josephagoss on Monday January 29, 2018 @04:51AM (#16256506)
I'm a cryptocurrency supporter but I'm not anti tax or anti government. I genuinely think that decentralized trust based systems such as blockchain have a place in our world even alongside government.

With that said, I would like to believe that if caught, these types of seed hacks could be prosecuted. (If viable)

Re:How a malicious seed generation website stole $4M by vog on Monday January 29, 2018 @05:36AM (#16256679)
> I'm a cryptocurrency supporter but I'm not anti tax or anti government.

The GNU Taler project might be interesting to you, then.

It is based on design decisions that are refreshingly different from classic crypto currencies (who implement more an anarcho-capitalism mindset). Because of those design differences, I'm not sure if it should be considered a crypto currency or not. (They themselves do not.)

Website: https://gnutaler.org/

Presentation at SHA2017: https://taler.net/videos/sha2017taler.webm

Re:How a malicious seed generation website stole $4M by paulrd on Monday January 29, 2018 @07:38AM (#16257110)
BEWARE: apparently gnutaler.org is a fake website taler.net is the correct one! source: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/taler/2018-01/msg00009.htm...
Re:How a malicious seed generation website stole $4M by vog on Monday January 29, 2018 @07:51AM (#16257163)
Whoops, wrong URL. Sorry for the confusion!

https://taler.net/

(Too bad I can't edit my original comment anymore here on HN. I find it disgusting to have helped spread a scam website and not being able to fix that afterwards.)

Re:How a malicious seed generation website stole $4M by pbhjpbhj on Monday January 29, 2018 @09:28AM (#16257645)
Paging dang, can you fix this?
Re:How a malicious seed generation website stole $4M by banachtarski on Monday January 29, 2018 @06:04AM (#16256789)
So as a non-cryptocurrency suppporter, what's the point then? Making things distributed necessarily makes it slower and harder/more expensive to regulate (let alone operate). Not to mention the high volatility which is the primary thing that gives a currency any value (hence, why the US Dollar is considered the reserve currency of the world: its stability). At some point, a duck is a duck. This duck is a fun experiment and someone discovered how to combine proof of work (old concept) with quorums (old concept) and a distributed ledger (old concept) that altogether gave the illusion of something unique and usable. I'm seeing worse usability on all fronts, no endgame in sight (except to move to a new currency when transaction fees get high), little to no regulation, and a worser world in general. It's also ecologically irresponsible (centralized currencies will _always_ be more efficient by definition).

I don't care that I can make a quick buck by preying on people's FOMO, the whole movement is fueled by seemingly emotional, albeit baseless, arguments and bravado.

Re:How a malicious seed generation website stole $4M by DennisP on Monday January 29, 2018 @08:00AM (#16257213)
It's perfectly consistent if they're minarchists rather than anarchists. Or Occupy Wall Street types, for that matter.
Re:How a malicious seed generation website stole $4M by quickthrower2 on Monday January 29, 2018 @05:04AM (#16256561)
Yeah but then they should be livid at the idea of the government prosecuting people period.
Re:How a malicious seed generation website stole $4M by bradleyjg on Monday January 29, 2018 @09:11AM (#16257548)
Maybe if the whole thing is dropped neatly with a bow on someone's desk at a cybercrime unit of the central police in the country where the perpetrator lives. But probably not.

It's not so much because authorities don't consider it a crime, like stealing WoW gear, but because of the difficulties in investigating and prosecuting the case vs the total losses.

Re:How a malicious seed generation website stole $4M by rsync on Monday January 29, 2018 @10:48AM (#16258131)
"do anyone prosecute this kind of hacks? or just because is a token without legal status is like stealing Sheldon's gear in WOW."

Actually, I do lean towards the notion that stealing/embezzling/defrauding iotas/bitcoins/cuervocoins is legally equivalent to looting gold in WoW.

I see nothing in this news/thread today about "Iota" (which I have never heard of until today) that makes me consider it serious, legal business.

It approaches the seriousness of WoW from below.