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Re:Tokyo-based cryptocurrency exchange hacked, losing $530M:... by cryptonitez on Friday January 26, 2018 @02:42PM (#16242243)
Yes, the I believe the sum of fiat deposited on bitfinex, bittrex, huobi,... is close to that amount. I even see people from high school "investing" in crypto now.

It's really not hard to believe when you consider how many millions of people are on these exchanges. Binance touts 3 million users, and has 425,819,642 tethers. 141$ average a user is completely believable.

Re:Tokyo-based cryptocurrency exchange hacked, losing $530M:... by vkou on Friday January 26, 2018 @03:13PM (#16242481)
You're being taken in by a basic accounting trick.

Let's suppose I buy 100 USDT on an exchange.

What Tether claims happens:

0. Bob and I own $100. Tether and Bittrex own nothing.

1. Bob sends $100 to Tether Limited.

2. Tether limited sends Bob 100 USDT. They now have $100 in their bank account.

3. Bob transfers 100 USDT to bittrex.

4. I send $100 to bittrex. I buy 100 USDT using that $100 from Bob.

5. Bob withdraws his $100 from Bittrex. I withdraw my 100 USDT from Bittrex.

6. Now, I own 100 USDT, Bob owns $100, Bittrex owns nothing.

7. Tether Limited has to hold $100 in reserve. It's not their money - it's supposed to be backing USDT. In addition to having assets of $100, they also have $100 of liabilities.

The reality:

Steps 0-6 are the same.

Step 7: Tether Limited buys a vacation to the Bahamas with their $100, and ignores the $100 liability. They are actually insolvent, and I have no recourse against them, because the Tether TOS make it very clear that I cannot redeem my USDT for USD from them.

The whole point of tether is that it is supposed to be backed 1:1 with USD in Tether Limited's accounts. They have not proven to anyone that this is actually the case. For all we know, all that money went to the Bahamas, or a Swiss bank account, and they are just issuing USDT, pocketing what people pay them for it, and keeping none of it in reserve.

Re:Tokyo-based cryptocurrency exchange hacked, losing $530M:... by MatekCopatek on Friday January 26, 2018 @03:59PM (#16242854)
While I think you're absolutely right in general, there are a few exchanges that are registered as serious financial institutions, which means they need to follow stricter regulation and actually back 100% of their user's assets. As far as I know at least Coinbase and Bitstamp are among these.
Re:Tokyo-based cryptocurrency exchange hacked, losing $530M:... by ceejayoz on Friday January 26, 2018 @04:07PM (#16242902)
Yes, and to my knowledge the legit folks like Coinbase aren't using Tether. They're using actual USD. They'll still likely get hurt when the scam collapses, but nowhere near as much.