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Re:The Dirty War Over Diversity Inside Google by j45 on Friday January 26, 2018 @10:41AM (#16239960)
Tolerance doesn't solve much. It's hard to tolerate people merely tolerating each other.

Acceptance comes through dialogue, and mutual understanding.

Sadly, there's a lot of "open minded people" who are pretty close minded to openly entertain a viewpoint that isn't their own, let alone be able to look in the mirror.

It can be easier (and lazier) to trivialize, dismiss, degrade the viewpoints of others, or be a crybully, rather than have a sincere look at yourself in a conversation.

Add into the mix reasonable themes of fragility, privilege that one group has been raised with (not entirely their choosing but a responsibility to work on), and in another experience at the expense of others, another group having an unfair go for a number of fair reasons.

The reality is bias exists. The best candidate does not win if the decision makers are not of the best and of the most open temperament.

I read somewhere that some of this may be a majority having the experience of a minority for once - and maybe that can help drive a better conversation and mutual understanding.

One thing is for sure, being quiet won't work, and freedom of speech without being thoughtful with your words won't help either.

Re:The Dirty War Over Diversity Inside Google by Clanan on Friday January 26, 2018 @11:12AM (#16240252)
> Acceptance comes through dialogue, and mutual understanding.

Do you have any actual empirical evidence or research for this? This reads like window-dressing for thought-police. "You don't accept our views? Sounds like you need more dialogue (re-education)."

In a business setting at least, tolerance allows individuals with different beliefs and motivations to work toward shared goals.

Re:The Dirty War Over Diversity Inside Google by j45 on Friday January 26, 2018 @11:50AM (#16240634)
Areas of empirical evidence and research are plenty - maybe you can look instead of using it as the first shot across the bow? Topics like Truth and Reconciliation will grease logic wheels into a nicely polished mirror and uncover other areas of study.

Sorry another person's reality can be effortlessly maligned as window dressing to you. Happy to chat offline and you can report back here - email is in my profile. Happy to do a hangout too.

A reality is it's easy to marginalize and dehumanize those you haven't had to sit down, face to face and have an interaction with and have to consider that they might actually hold you to task as much as you are holding them to task.

Getting along with others doesn't only involve logic and the mind.

Interpersonal skills are not purely logical, they require a balanced ability to use one's emotions with intelligence and maturity.

In business settings, teams that practice deep horizontal loyalty generally outperform teams that borderline tolerate each other but would prefer not to. Similar effects happen on sports teams that have proverbial Cinderella runs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth_and_reconciliation_commi...

http://horizontalloyalty.com/#/title

Re:The Dirty War Over Diversity Inside Google by Clanan on Friday January 26, 2018 @12:13PM (#16240866)
I'm not entirely sure what you're responding to. Your parent comment compared tolerance vs. acceptance, which is somewhat orthogonal to the various topics you mention here (most of which support either approach). The derision of tolerance, which itself is a cornerstone of many societies, requires strong evidence.

In any case, I'm guessing I misread your original intent.