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Re:The Dirty War Over Diversity Inside Google by pjc50 on Friday January 26, 2018 @10:21AM (#16239793)
> heavy handed immigration policy

That discussion is unlikely to go well if any of your co-workers are immigrants. You can't discuss "should you be in this country or should you and your family be deported" in front of someone dispassionately.

Edit: the last few times I've discussed "heavy handed immigration policy" at work it has been because co-workers have had to deal with the Home Office and I'm commiserating how difficult it is. One guy got tripped up by "the middle initial on your ID wasn't present in the name field of this form" (or vice versa).

Re:The Dirty War Over Diversity Inside Google by geofft on Friday January 26, 2018 @10:27AM (#16239841)
This is more or less what David Gudeman, the other plaintiff in Damore's lawsuit, wandered into:

> Gudeman further stated that at the suggestion of another Googler, he searched Gilani’s story of being profiled, and found “zero evidence for the claim that [Gilani] was targeted just for being a Muslim.” Gudeman posed more questions about the FBI’s motives for looking into Gilani such as the fact that Gilani had recently visited Pakistan, and that the FBI could have possibly found something interesting about Gilani’s trip or the region that he visited.

If you're going to have a rule about not discussing politics in order to uphold a productive workplace culture, it seems like a very good place to start is that your coworkers should not be able to say something with the subtext "Maybe the FBI had a reason to investigate you for being a terrorist."

Re:The Dirty War Over Diversity Inside Google by promanescu on Friday January 26, 2018 @11:33AM (#16240446)
Speaking as an immigrant: this is bullshit. I've heard a lot of far-righters talk about restricting NEW immigration and deporting illegal immigrants, but have never once been party to a conversation when they implied that I or my family should be deported.

Aside from the feeds of a few dozen Twitter edgelords, the discussions you're imagining (or want us to imagine) do not exist and are a strawman argument.

Re:The Dirty War Over Diversity Inside Google by pjc50 on Friday January 26, 2018 @12:18PM (#16240909)
"Legal" and "illegal" are administrative categories and someone can become illegal very suddenly and nastily. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/nov/29/family-of-wo...

I'm afraid demands for people to be deported are very common in UK immigration discussion, and very few people seem to be fussy over the legality of it.

Re:The Dirty War Over Diversity Inside Google by Chris2048 on Friday January 26, 2018 @11:01AM (#16240146)
Why? I'm a immigrant to the country I'm resident to, hoping to apply for citizenship. I don't resent any current citizen/local discussing tighter immigration laws that doesn't insult my nationality, which I'd excludes anything with a factual basis.

But then, I'm a European, living in another European country, so the same racial sensitivity might not exist?

Re:The Dirty War Over Diversity Inside Google by lykr0n on Friday January 26, 2018 @11:08AM (#16240213)
From what I understand, The US has a special view on immigration due to historically lax enforcement, varying history of enforcement, and general diversity of our population. It's hard to compare to other countries.
Re:The Dirty War Over Diversity Inside Google by lykr0n on Friday January 26, 2018 @10:43AM (#16239979)
I could have used better description for the example. But as a tech company, I do think there are merits to discussing how a modified H1B Visa policy affects us.