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Re:Ask HN: Do You Consider Remote a Working Perk? by whack on Friday January 26, 2018 @08:32AM (#16238958)
We're getting hung up on semantics here. What's going on is really a negotiation tactic. Here's what the company is thinking:

- dizzystar would enjoy working remote

- it would be hard for dizzystar to find other remote-working opportunities

- hence, dizzystar would be willing to work for a discounted rate, in order to be remote

In their perspective, there is no "right or wrong". It's purely a matter of negotiation leverage. You have a couple options here:

- admit they are right, and accept a discounted rate

- claim that your rates are final and not negotiable

- claim that you don't value remote working, but because you value them as a client, you're willing to negotiate on your rate

Option 2 is more likely to get you a higher rate, but also more likely to drive them away. Option 3 involves accepting some discount, but at least you minimise the leverage they think they have over you.

This discussion over semantics is not helping anyone. Just treat it as a negotiation game, and play it the way you would any other negotiation scenario.

Re:Ask HN: Do You Consider Remote a Working Perk? by dizzystar on Friday January 26, 2018 @10:17AM (#16239754)
Right, I did go with a variant on option 3.

If it matters, I've only worked on site for one job. I've always been remote otherwise. I probably should have mentioned it in my OP, but really was wondering more about the general perspective on remote.

Re:Ask HN: Do You Consider Remote a Working Perk? by thatoneyouthrow on Sunday January 28, 2018 @10:04AM (#16251541)
Another option is to work at a company for a year and then demand remote during a critical part of a project. If they don't give you remote they lose a valuable asset and are behind schedule.
Re:Ask HN: Do You Consider Remote a Working Perk? by late2part on Friday January 26, 2018 @10:14AM (#16239722)
^this. While there is an objective and subjective truth, in this case it's just about negotiation.

If I were you, I would follow up on your thoughts with something like:

"I don't think it's appropriate for us to make remote or in-office location related to salary. You're hiring me to get things done. I incur higher costs by maintaining a higher office. What recompense do you offer for costs of running a remote office since your office costs are deferred?"

Or maybe softer, but that should take the idea off the table for them.

Re:Ask HN: Do You Consider Remote a Working Perk? by thatoneyouthrow on Sunday January 28, 2018 @10:06AM (#16251553)
I wouldn't even go there. I would just say that my family needs, lifestyle, or need to take care of my parents requires $X. Make something up.