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Re:Facebook open-sources Detectron by bildung on Tuesday January 23, 2018 @09:12AM (#16213647)
It was the same when this was about words from old books. I always had to fill in letters the average person would have thought it to be, not what it actually was (e.g. the letter "f" for what really was an "s" in gothic type).

Nowadays it's much easier, you can click anything that looks vaguely the same (e.g. boxy things for cars, ads for traffic signs, traffic signs for store fronts etc.). The fact that it's so easy to poison the training set makes me very wary about the autonomous car future...

Re:Facebook open-sources Detectron by MisterTea on Tuesday January 23, 2018 @10:37AM (#16214349)
I actually like poisoning them. Not to be malicious but I feel manipulated into training their software for free. "Oh you wanted to sign up for that web forum? Sorry, but you have to do some free work for us first"

And if you think that it's somehow good because it's mutually beneficial to train AI to better the future of humanity, don't. That is what their marketing department wants you to think.

Re:Facebook open-sources Detectron by dazmax on Tuesday January 23, 2018 @11:00AM (#16214549)
The value they're providing is to the forum owner, who has reduced spam-handling workload.

So the forum is providing you value, you are providing Google value, and Google is providing the forum value.

Re:Facebook open-sources Detectron by kuschku on Tuesday January 23, 2018 @11:31AM (#16214815)
Sure, but if the public has to provide Google with free data, we should make laws requiring Google to open source the entire ReCaptcha training set.
Re:Facebook open-sources Detectron by operon on Tuesday January 23, 2018 @12:36PM (#16215416)
Why?
Re:Facebook open-sources Detectron by kuschku on Tuesday January 23, 2018 @12:41PM (#16215455)
Anything created with free work should be free in return. Anything created by the public should be available for the public.
Re:Facebook open-sources Detectron by sangnoir on Tuesday January 23, 2018 @02:37PM (#16216802)
To use an in-thread example - online forums are created with free work. Should all forums be forced to make their archives available for free download as well?
Re:Facebook open-sources Detectron by kuschku on Thursday January 25, 2018 @05:59AM (#16230088)
For free download? No. Should I be able to scrape them? Yes.
Re:Facebook open-sources Detectron by stolsvik on Wednesday January 24, 2018 @12:40PM (#16224561)
Yes.
Re:Facebook open-sources Detectron by Trundle on Tuesday January 23, 2018 @06:10PM (#16218777)
It's not free though. You get access to the forum.

If it was free then you wouldn't be doing them!

Re:Facebook open-sources Detectron by snupples on Tuesday January 23, 2018 @06:58PM (#16219092)
Or it could be both what their marketing department wants you to think, and also reasonable.