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Re:One Bitcoin miner is buying 20,000 16nm wafers from TSMC ... by gambiting on Monday January 22, 2018 @05:34PM (#16208681)
Why are banknotes worth anything? They are just pieces of paper with some ink on them, after all. They are "worth" something, because people are willing to do work or trade you stuff for them. The same with mining bitcoin - instead of printing banknotes, you make a "thing" that you can then trade for services and objects, because people want to have that "thing"(this part is crucial). Most importantly, people are willing to trade that "thing" for real actual dollars, and hence the mining craze.
Re:One Bitcoin miner is buying 20,000 16nm wafers from TSMC ... by hjrnunes on Tuesday January 23, 2018 @06:18AM (#16212653)
The reason banknotes are worth anything is because you need them to pay taxes and fees to your/a sovereign.

They literally entitle you to pay the corresponding amount of taxes and/or fees (e.g. for market transactions) to the sovereign, which you cannot pay otherwise.

Hence why they are not mere pieces of paper with ink anymore a stock share or bond is: they're titles - the value is in what they entitle you to, not the physical substract they're on.

Bitcoin doesn't entitle you to anything other than creating a new ledger entry in the distributed ledger book that is the blockchain. Except unlike most ledger books, the Bitcoin blockchain does not record transfers of actual property between parties - it records the transfer of abstract numbers (which cannot be property in and of themselves).

Re:One Bitcoin miner is buying 20,000 16nm wafers from TSMC ... by amalag on Monday January 22, 2018 @05:42PM (#16208773)
Do you see people printing banknotes out of feathers or some other randomly expensive material? No, and similarly mining bitcoin is some randomly expensive process. The process of securing a "coin" can be done very cheaply with minimal computing cost and the world will shift to that.
Re:One Bitcoin miner is buying 20,000 16nm wafers from TSMC ... by gambiting on Monday January 22, 2018 @05:52PM (#16208860)
The issue is not that the process has to be expensive. You are correct - we could generate billions of crypto coins within couple hours and beat bitcoin right away. But people want bitcoin. The same why people are willing to pay the price for a labour-intensive painting that took years to make over an identical reproduction that took 5 minutes to print.
Re:One Bitcoin miner is buying 20,000 16nm wafers from TSMC ... by amalag on Monday January 22, 2018 @08:00PM (#16209854)
This is now shifting the goalposts. Before it was PoW is necessary to secure the network. Now it is we don't need PoW but it is artisanal.
Re:One Bitcoin miner is buying 20,000 16nm wafers from TSMC ... by Ologn on Monday January 22, 2018 @06:08PM (#16209005)
> Why are banknotes worth anything?

Until 1971 dollars were worth something because they could be converted into one of the thousands of tons of gold bars the US stores at Fort Knox (and elsewhere).

Then a magic wand was waved over the printing presses at the US Treasury and they began to attain value for no reason. This magic has now spread to Bitcoin, Ethereum, and even cryptocoins like Dogecoin, whose creator has stated that the coin was created as a joke.

If the dollar never needed gold convertibility, why did they ever have convertibility in the first place? Why does the government spend a lot of money to store thousands of tons of unneeded gold at Fort Knox etc.?

There is a magic to the dollar - because if a panic ever causes its power to wane too much, Trump only has to utter six magical words to let it regain its power - "the convertibility window is open again".

How many thousands of tons of gold, governments, armies etc. stand behind Bitcoin?

Re:One Bitcoin miner is buying 20,000 16nm wafers from TSMC ... by stephen_g on Monday January 22, 2018 @08:43PM (#16210148)
Convertibility has always been based on a fundamental misunderstanding of money, and always fails because it's a flawed concept (and requires fixed exchange rates, which is always a bad idea).

Money has always been based more on representing debt than actually having intrinsic value (that misunderstanding comes from the barter myth, that pre-money economies had markets that used barder, which there is little anthropological evidence for - see Debt: The First 5000 Years for a pretty good overview).

As for now, the US dollar has a baseline demand because all business and income in the US requires taxes to be paid to the Government in US dollars, and all spending by the Government happens in dollars. The rest of the domestic economy emerges out of that, just as market economies always have. The value of the dollar is effectively ultimately 'backed' by the goods and services produced by the US economy. Herein lies the problem with convertibility - why would we expect that the amount of gold the Fed corresponds to the size of the economy? It won't, so the value will always diverge and hence how the system failed (more than once).

Re:One Bitcoin miner is buying 20,000 16nm wafers from TSMC ... by bigiain on Monday January 22, 2018 @07:31PM (#16209674)
So there's apparently 1.65 billion US dollars in unnamed bank accounts behind Tether...

Cough - yeah, right...