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Re:Why Understanding Space Is So Hard (2016) by vorg on Sunday January 21, 2018 @01:01PM (#16199109)
There must be something else in the Universe to observe the single proton for it to have rotation, etc, according to quantum physics. Extend this idea to the centrifugal force on the water in the bucket in a Universe with nothing else in it, and the centrifugal force is similarly both there and not there, in a quantum superposition until observed. The value of Planck's constant is thus a function of the large-scale distribution of energy in the Universe, rather than a fixed property of spacetime itself.
Re:Why Understanding Space Is So Hard (2016) by testestx on Sunday January 21, 2018 @01:58PM (#16199379)
> There must be something else in the Universe to observe the single proton for it to have rotation, etc, according to quantum physics.

No, according to the Copenhagen interpretation.

Re:Why Understanding Space Is So Hard (2016) by whatshisface on Sunday January 21, 2018 @02:00PM (#16199391)
Even in the Copenhagen interpretation states can have well-defined angular momenta before wavefunction collapse.
Re:Why Understanding Space Is So Hard (2016) by vorg on Sunday January 21, 2018 @02:36PM (#16199542)
I thought in QM you couldn't know both the degree of rotation and the direction of the axis for a particle. If so, I wouldn't call that "well-defined".