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Re:How PayPal Shares Your Data by em3rgent0rdr on Sunday January 21, 2018 @04:37AM (#16197441)
Some cryptocurrencies are designed to preserve privacy, to protect people from exactly this problem.
Re:How PayPal Shares Your Data by zerokernel on Sunday January 21, 2018 @04:53AM (#16197468)
I don't think cryptocurrencies are protecting anyone from any problem.
Re:How PayPal Shares Your Data by jstanley on Sunday January 21, 2018 @08:27AM (#16197953)
OK, I'll bite. How is Monero not protecting people's privacy?
Re:How PayPal Shares Your Data by paulsutter on Sunday January 21, 2018 @09:55AM (#16198237)
Because most Monero transactions are traceable, according to research by the National University of Singapore:

https://eprint.iacr.org/2017/338.pdf

If anyone can debunk this I’d love to hear more, but generally I think it’s dangerous to rely on claims of secrecy

Re:How PayPal Shares Your Data by jstanley on Sunday January 21, 2018 @10:04AM (#16198284)
Re:How PayPal Shares Your Data by paulsutter on Sunday January 21, 2018 @10:45AM (#16198450)
Thanks for the link. While it’s good to see the paper overstates the problem, it’s also clear that users should not assume that their Monero transactions are untraceable.
Re:How PayPal Shares Your Data by tscs37 on Sunday January 21, 2018 @06:36PM (#16200765)
I think the summary of both papers (the initial paper and monero's unofficial response) could be that monero's transactions are reasonably untraceable.

Reasonably private should be good enough for most people.

Re:How PayPal Shares Your Data by paulsutter on Monday January 22, 2018 @12:35AM (#16202153)
If the goal is more-private-than-bitcoin, yes, it's less traceable than bitcoin. If the goal is bulletproof-from-authorities, not so much.
Re:How PayPal Shares Your Data by Fnoord on Sunday January 21, 2018 @05:05AM (#16197483)
Yes, a known example is Monero. The question is, first and foremost, if you should trust cryptocurrencies.
Re:How PayPal Shares Your Data by rickdg on Sunday January 21, 2018 @06:11AM (#16197632)
You don't, that's the point. It's an investment of time and money to learn the tech so you don't need to trust it.
Re:How PayPal Shares Your Data by dmos62 on Sunday January 21, 2018 @09:49AM (#16198221)
Trustlessness, in other words the property of not requiring trust in the ledger's correctness, is the cornerstone of cryptocurrencies.
Re:How PayPal Shares Your Data by tormeh on Sunday January 21, 2018 @05:29AM (#16197524)
Yeah, but the biggest ones are not inflationary, so they end up as exclusively hype-driven speculative investment vehicles. That's not good for a method of payment.
Re:How PayPal Shares Your Data by Casseres on Sunday January 21, 2018 @08:12AM (#16197920)
Monero is inflationary, but it still might not keep up with coin loss.

Even a coin with higher inflation will still be susceptible as a speculative-investment. It would be nice if there was a way to avoid that, and to keep value relatively-stable, but I can't think of anyway that does require trusting 3rd parties.

Re:How PayPal Shares Your Data by Casseres on Monday January 22, 2018 @07:07PM (#16209487)
Typo, meant: "that does not require"
Re:How PayPal Shares Your Data by cm2187 on Sunday January 21, 2018 @06:51AM (#16197745)
Preserving privacy by having a public ledger where everyone can see your transactions?