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Re:Greeks are abandoning cigarettes in record numbers by toomuchtodo on Saturday January 20, 2018 @04:49PM (#16195597)
Indeed. The only solution is subsidized rehabilitation or elimination of tobacco (the latter I intend to kickstart, to fund the use of CRISPR to gene drive a detrimental gene in tobacco).

If we can do it with mosquitoes, no reason we can’t use it against tobacco.

Re:Greeks are abandoning cigarettes in record numbers by kodablah on Saturday January 20, 2018 @06:06PM (#16195935)
When reading this comment, I am glad prohibitionists didn't have these scientific tools a century ago. Creepy.
Re:Greeks are abandoning cigarettes in record numbers by toomuchtodo on Saturday January 20, 2018 @06:31PM (#16196019)
What’s the difference between malaria and tobacco use, considering nicotine is highly addictive? If substance abuse is a disease, why is it “wrong” to attack it or it’s vectors in the same way as a biological disease?
Re:Greeks are abandoning cigarettes in record numbers by kodablah on Saturday January 20, 2018 @06:41PM (#16196058)
Because the carriers are not mosquitoes? "If X is a disease, why is it 'wrong' to attack it or it's vectors in the same way as a biological disease?" Surely you can see what a nonsensical statement that is for many values of X be it substance abuse, gambling, etc.
Re:Greeks are abandoning cigarettes in record numbers by toomuchtodo on Saturday January 20, 2018 @06:51PM (#16196105)
I don’t. If we’re not going to outlaw substances that have extremely limited therapeutical uses in their current form while allowing corporations to profit by causing great harm to millions of people, you explore other avenues to fix the problem.

I’d offer a vaccine for addiction if one existed, but until that time, you hack around the lack of political will.

Re:Greeks are abandoning cigarettes in record numbers by mnx on Saturday January 20, 2018 @06:03PM (#16195925)
That sounds like a really bad idea. Also, you can make synthetic nicotine. So eliminating tobacco wouldn't help.
Re:Greeks are abandoning cigarettes in record numbers by toomuchtodo on Saturday January 20, 2018 @06:57PM (#16196123)
Nicotine, while highly addictive, would still cause far less damage to its users if consumed through a patch, gum or e-cigarette. I’m disrupting a suboptimal consumption method.
Re:Greeks are abandoning cigarettes in record numbers by mirimir on Saturday January 20, 2018 @07:04PM (#16196147)
Indeed. The last time that I quit tobacco, I kept chewing nicotine gum for several months. To get the attention-focusing effect. But I really don't like chewing gum, and so gave it up. And modafinil is better, anyway.
Re:Greeks are abandoning cigarettes in record numbers by toomuchtodo on Saturday January 20, 2018 @07:58PM (#16196309)
Congratulations on quitting!
Re:Greeks are abandoning cigarettes in record numbers by mirimir on Saturday January 20, 2018 @08:21PM (#16196375)
Hey, thanks :) I went 20 years using, 10 years off, one year using, and now over 10 years off. It's a damn hard drug to kick.