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Re:Why Are Some People More Creative Than Others? by pmoriarty on Friday January 19, 2018 @03:20PM (#16189414)
"The genetic lottery is unfair; and some people are just better than you no matter what you do, and no matter what they don't do."

This is clearer in some fields than others -- particularly in fields where there are child prodigies, like in chess, music, or mathematics.

In other fields, child prodigies are rare or perhaps even non-existent.

There are, to my knowledge, no child prodigies who've written brilliant novels, or earned the Nobel Prize for Literature (as flawed a measure of talent as it is). There are no children who've composed poems which are considered to be among the greatest in the world.

These fields tend to draw upon a whole life's worth of experience -- something that children obviously lack and can't make up for through "winning the genetic lottery".

Re:Why Are Some People More Creative Than Others? by Retric on Friday January 19, 2018 @03:24PM (#16189449)
Few books are written by kids which confuses the issue. If only one in 100,000 books is great and prodigies have written less than 100,000 books then you should not expect any great books.

On the other hand plenty of great books have been written by people in their 20's which is a long way from a full life.

Re:Why Are Some People More Creative Than Others? by pmoriarty on Friday January 19, 2018 @03:26PM (#16189461)
So why aren't they writing books? They're making music, playing chess, and doing math -- often at much higher levels than many adults. Why not books?
Re:Why Are Some People More Creative Than Others? by Retric on Friday January 19, 2018 @03:30PM (#16189499)
There are plenty of books written by people under 18. Some are even above average relative to adult writing. But, unlike chess, math, or music it takes a long time to write a book so they get less practice. On top of that books take a long time to write so they need to be good at a young age simply to finish by 18.

On the other had there is some IMO great poetry written by kids.

Re:Why Are Some People More Creative Than Others? by eachro on Friday January 19, 2018 @03:42PM (#16189596)
Child prodigies are rare by definition though. Whether or not you've heard of them, I think, is more a function of what media chooses to shine a spotlight on. On the top of my head I'd probably say Chistopher Paolini(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Paolini) qualifies as a child prodigy author - his first book, Eragon, was published when he was 19. Granted, it was his parent publishing company, but it still became a best seller.

But your broader point: "These fields tend to draw upon a whole life's worth of experience -- something that children obviously lack and can't make up for through "winning the genetic lottery"." Yea, I'd agree with that.

Re:Why Are Some People More Creative Than Others? by pmoriarty on Friday January 19, 2018 @04:05PM (#16189838)
Bestseller lists are an even less reliable way of measuring talent than the Nobel Prize. There have been numerous articles about how flawed and subject to manipulation the NYT Bestseller List is, for instance.[1][2][3][4]

Calling a 19-year-old a "child" is really stretching the definition of a "child", in my view. Compare that to chess and music prodigies, for instance, who are already performing at levels above those of most adults even before their teens.[5][6]

[1] - https://www.theverge.com/2017/8/27/16208294/handbook-for-mor...

[2] - http://gary-lindberg.com/do-you-trust-the-nyt-bestseller-lis...

[3] - http://www.hughhowey.com/the-nyt-and-wsj-best-seller-lists-m...

[4] - http://www.politicususa.com/2010/12/02/palin-bestseller-frau...

[5] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chess_prodigy

[6] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_prodigy

Re:Why Are Some People More Creative Than Others? by eachro on Friday January 19, 2018 @04:44PM (#16190121)
You bring up a good point about talent. With chess, math, music, there are objective measures in how "talented" the person is. You can say person X is performing above their grade level, or person X is in the top Zth percentile of all competitors in their arena. But what is talent in something more subjective like writing or art? What does it mean to "perform at levels above most adults"? Perhaps the reason you do not see "child prodigies" in these areas is because it is hard to come to any consensus on how to gauge talent here.

On your point that he was 19 at the time of publication. Sure you can say he was not a kid when he wrote it, but the act of writing it was not something that just happened over night(and certainly not with a piece of work as long as Eragon). I would still argue that he is a prodigy in the sense that he found success as a writer much earlier than most writers usually do. And perhaps this had little to do with his writing talent. Maybe, maybe not.