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Re:Luna visual programming language beta release by cs702 on Tuesday January 16, 2018 @06:54PM (#16164081)
Re:Luna visual programming language beta release by sytelus on Tuesday January 16, 2018 @07:13PM (#16164226)
I'm looking for visual language that does not require ability to read (except, say, knowing numbers 1 to 10). Does anything like this exist? I looked at Spark but that doesn't fall in to this category.

The idea is as follows: Devices like tablets and smartphones are naturally usable by 4-year old with minimal and even no instructions even if they can't read yet. Is there a visual programming language that can be implemented on such devices that is usable by just 4 year old?

Re:Luna visual programming language beta release by markwhiting on Tuesday January 16, 2018 @08:45PM (#16164765)
Scratch requires only a very basic understanding of terms, and has been widely extended, as in translated to many languages and perhaps completely visual versions have been made.

Here's a link to the base project → https://scratch.mit.edu

Re:Luna visual programming language beta release by zyxzevn on Tuesday January 16, 2018 @08:53PM (#16164811)
Sadly, I am still working on that.. My thoughts are on www.reddit.com/r/unseen_programming

Its structure is very similar to Luna. Instead of popup-lists, you can drag-drop functions into the program and connect them with lines.

But I don't know from what age it will work, they still must learn some symbols. +,- etc.

Alternatively, you could let them try fun computer-games that are close to programming. Like factoria.

Re:Luna visual programming language beta release by seanmcdirmid on Tuesday January 16, 2018 @07:27PM (#16164322)
You would need to find a pre-literate VPL, like Kidsym, or maybe Hands. Those are research languages, but there seem to be a lot of pre-literate visual data-flow and block languages out there these days, none of them is especially popular but they work fine in their own way.
Re:Luna visual programming language beta release by dogma1138 on Tuesday January 16, 2018 @07:18PM (#16164262)
Logical operations require the ability to read if not English than at least some form of formal grammar.
Re:Luna visual programming language beta release by TailorJones on Tuesday January 16, 2018 @06:27PM (#16163892)