Re:California has the highest poverty rate in the USA
by optimuspaul on Monday January 15, 2018 @05:11PM
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Do you have any facts to back up your speculation that an "open" border has anything to do with the problems described?
Re:California has the highest poverty rate in the USA
by rconti on Monday January 15, 2018 @05:19PM
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The Op-Ed called it the poverty trap: "55% of immigrant families in the state get some kind of means-tested benefits, compared with just 30% of natives."
However, it failed to cite any kind of causality. It seems just as likely that those kinds of benefits are precisely why they come here.
I'd also be interested in knowing if it's truly a trap -- do immigrant families come here, get those benefits, then move up? Or is it the same 55% decade after decade?
Re:California has the highest poverty rate in the USA
by optimuspaul on Monday January 15, 2018 @05:21PM
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immigrants via a loose border? or immigrants that arrived legally? Or immigrants that just came from other states? What does native mean in this context?
Re:California has the highest poverty rate in the USA
by seanmcdirmid on Monday January 15, 2018 @06:21PM
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Immigrants from other states vs. native Californians.
Re:California has the highest poverty rate in the USA
by Robotbeat on Monday January 15, 2018 @05:20PM
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I think his comment was tongue in cheek. The stats might look higher without immigrants, but that doesn't mean the problem is solved.
Re:California has the highest poverty rate in the USA
by Para2016 on Monday January 15, 2018 @05:39PM
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For sure it wasn't a serious comment, but there is a more serious facet of it I think. If our states aren't able to properly deal with the poverty that's already here, why are we inviting more of it in?
US psychiatric, APS, and CPS services are poor, and can't adequately deal with the needs of those already here. It's only going to get worse.
If only we shut the borders like those great red states want to do, we'd have a lot fewer poor people and our stats would be higher!