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Re:CES Was Full of Useless Robots and Machines That Don’t Work by dingaling on Monday January 15, 2018 @12:59AM (#16148804)
The main dust-trap in our house is the carpeted stairs. Since I have to drag a vacuum out to do those I might as well do the rest of the house whilst I'm at it.

I suppose I could have a Roomba that I moved up and down the storeys on alternating days, plus a manual vacuum cleaner solely for the stairs, but that seems to be defeating the point of robotics.

Re:CES Was Full of Useless Robots and Machines That Don’t Work by bonesss on Monday January 15, 2018 @07:06AM (#16149998)
> Since I have to drag a vacuum out to do those I might as well do the rest

My parents have gotten themselves a back-pack style vacuum cleaner. It's not the prettiest thing, but it makes it very easy to vacuum stairs, and very very easy to play Ghostbuster.

Re:CES Was Full of Useless Robots and Machines That Don’t Work by dkersten on Monday January 15, 2018 @12:03PM (#16151729)
Could just use one of those hand vacuum cleaners that people use to clean cars. They're good enough to clean my stairs twice a week, at least.
Re:CES Was Full of Useless Robots and Machines That Don’t Work by bigiain on Monday January 15, 2018 @01:16AM (#16148859)
I move my vacuum robot up and down stairs as needed. I'm not _quite_ lazy enough to buy a second one for upstairs (but I _have_ considered it, I use an inexpensive Chinese knockoff, not a brand-name-priced Roomba...)
Re:CES Was Full of Useless Robots and Machines That Don’t Work by BigJono on Monday January 15, 2018 @01:43AM (#16148962)
Are the Chinese knock-offs any good? I just looked up the price of a Roomba. $600 AUD to start for the shittiest model :(
Re:CES Was Full of Useless Robots and Machines That Don’t Work by bigiain on Monday January 15, 2018 @01:54AM (#16149012)
I grabbed an iLife brand one from (I think) gearBest on special for ~$176AUD delivered (from memory as an impulse buy while shopping for quadcopter parts...)

This one: https://www.gearbest.com/smart-home/pp_187246.html

Turns out it's a few weeks short of 2 years old now, and it's still going strong. (It's kinda slow to charge, but at least thats kind to the batteries.)

It works fine for me - and I've had friends who've got real Roombas who say theirs doesn't work as well. I _think_ you sometimes get lucky with the wheels/traction and your particular carpet - mine does it's least-good job in the most rarely used room (spare bedroom) where the carpet is fluffier. It occasionally gets "trapped" in there. But I probably wouldn't have ever pulled the trigger at a $600 pricepoint.

Re:CES Was Full of Useless Robots and Machines That Don’t Work by sundvor on Monday January 15, 2018 @02:42AM (#16149164)
Had my Roomba 780 for five years and the lifting handle broke a few weeks prior to the 5y warranty expiry.

I got it dirt cheap using a price match, included 5y warranty. Will see if they replace or fix it... But overall very happy with my purchase.

Replaced the battery once with a higher capacity one; does a great job, can go for hours, always love the result. Bit noisy, so best to run when out.

You have to look after it by cleaning the rollers and dust bin etc, but yeah, it's a very solid build.

Mate has the new one and it creates a spookily accurate floorplan. Pretty cool to see the advancements made.

Re:CES Was Full of Useless Robots and Machines That Don’t Work by ableal on Monday January 15, 2018 @11:44AM (#16151566)
I'm equally pleased with the iLife A4 I got over a year ago, also from Gearbest.

I admire its design - it's a fairly simple machine that gets most everything right, including climbing carpet, being fairly quiet, not bumping hard into furniture, not falling off steps, and even returning to its charging base (on command or when battery is low after a couple hours work).

It does not have fancy magnetic barriers to close off areas, but a simple door draft stopper pillow on the floor holds it off well enough.

Re:CES Was Full of Useless Robots and Machines That Don’t Work by ImSkeptical on Monday January 15, 2018 @08:28PM (#16155074)
I'm surprised at the good reviews of the Roomba here. I got one a few years, and found it basically worthless. Everyday I'd come home and find the inventive way my Roomba had discovered to fail. Somedays it would get stuck on a chair leg, other times it would get trapped behind doors, or I'd just discover it dead somewhere without a clear explanation.

I had been hoping the Roomba would make my apartment and sweep it intelligently, but as near as I could tell, the Roomba just moved at random. I also found the power of the Roomba was weak. Inspecting my floor afterwards, I'd frequently find the same kind of lint, or detritus that made me want a Roomba in the first place.

Maybe I was just unlucky, or had a bad living space for a Roomba, but in my experience they aren't worth it at all.

Re:CES Was Full of Useless Robots and Machines That Don’t Work by pisarzp on Monday January 15, 2018 @07:17AM (#16150038)
I have a first generation Xiaomi vacuum and it's amazing, at 30% of high end Roomba with comparable features
Re:CES Was Full of Useless Robots and Machines That Don’t Work by user5994461 on Monday January 15, 2018 @04:05PM (#16153433)
Xiaomi, the phone manufacturer?
Re:CES Was Full of Useless Robots and Machines That Don’t Work by retox on Monday January 15, 2018 @05:13PM (#16153917)
Have a look on AliExpress or gearbest etc they make a huge range of things. I've always been happy with their stuff too, though they are getting more expensive.
Re:CES Was Full of Useless Robots and Machines That Don’t Work by dagw on Monday January 15, 2018 @05:15AM (#16149664)
I have a "Eufy robovac" I bought off Amazon and it works pretty great if you can accept a bunch of limitations.

It has no app and setting up any sort of non-trivial schedule using the simple remote that comes with it is very hard.

It never manages to find its way back to the charging station, so you have to find it and carry it back yourself each time.

It has no 'memory' so it has to learn the space it's in each time you start it and it doesn't know what it has and hasn't cleaned.

Beyond that it just works. I don't bother with scheduling. I just turn it on when I'm on my way out the door every other day or so and just let it get to work.

Re:CES Was Full of Useless Robots and Machines That Don’t Work by ece on Tuesday January 16, 2018 @12:30PM (#16160011)
2nd this Eufy robovac. I looked at the others, and since Eufy is Anker, went with them because of better service and battery life.

I don't think any of the others, including the 4x priced Roomba are any better at navigating my house. The sensors don't seem to work well on black floors, and there are places you will have to block so you don't have it getting stuck often. Once you've figured those two things out in your house, it's push button vacuuming with the $200 Eufy.

Re:CES Was Full of Useless Robots and Machines That Don’t Work by taspeotis on Monday January 15, 2018 @01:54AM (#16149011)
There are a few people at my workplace that swear by this guy [1]. Last time I checked you had to jump through some hoops to get the app to render in English, but there are YouTube tutorials to walk you through it.

[1] https://www.productreview.com.au/p/xiaomi-mi-robot-vacuum.ht...

Re:CES Was Full of Useless Robots and Machines That Don’t Work by wirelessest on Monday January 15, 2018 @01:56AM (#16149017)
Don't know about the knock-offs. But Ecovacs makes a line of roomba competitors that match up as well or better and cost 75% as much.
Re:CES Was Full of Useless Robots and Machines That Don’t Work by Ice_cream_suit on Monday January 15, 2018 @03:55AM (#16149384)
I have a couple of Aldi "robotic" vacuum cleaners. They are excellent.
Re:CES Was Full of Useless Robots and Machines That Don’t Work by mywacaday on Monday January 15, 2018 @04:57AM (#16149600)
The Dyson animal is a nice half way house, runs for 20 mins on a charge and because its always to hand the mental block of hauling the full size vacuum out from under stairs is gone, makes starting the job easier.
Re:CES Was Full of Useless Robots and Machines That Don’t Work by hinkley on Monday January 15, 2018 @12:59PM (#16152134)
Those spot cleaning handheld carpet shampooers are also great for small places for similar reasons. Slurp up anything right when it gets spilled and rent an upright once a year. Also good for upholstery.