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Re:What Really Happened with Vista: An Insider's Retrospective by tinus_hn on Saturday January 13, 2018 @06:28AM (#16139173)
A major problem with Windows 10 is that its search is basically retarded. It’s easy to get into a situation where the query ‘printer’ will find the Devices & Printers applet, but the query ‘printers’ will not.
Re:What Really Happened with Vista: An Insider's Retrospective by proactivesvcs on Saturday January 13, 2018 @07:28AM (#16139343)
Or Search just doesn't return local results at all. Or the Start Menu often won't open to even get to Search :-(

Even on fresh, completely updated systems I've found the Start menu is so intermittent that I'm glad I didn't sell them. The quality of Microsoft's work is called into question when the feature you're meant to "Start" with doesn't work.

Re:What Really Happened with Vista: An Insider's Retrospective by Spooky23 on Saturday January 13, 2018 @09:20AM (#16139697)
A lot of the start problems were due to Microsoft making the backend of the start menu system a database instead of files.

There was a lot of locking issues, which broke in weird ways. My understanding is that the latest release gets rid of it.

Re:What Really Happened with Vista: An Insider's Retrospective by cm2187 on Saturday January 13, 2018 @05:34PM (#16141780)
They nevertheless shipped their core product with a completely broken core feature. I am not sold on this software as a service/the OS is in permanent beta approach.

In general I have an even bigger problem with the philosophy of what an OS should do. When I switch on my computer, it's not to admire the OS, its beautiful UI, etc. It is because I want to do something, code something, watch something, read something. I live in the applications not in the OS. The OS should be effortless, surprise-less, it should hide behind and do its basic tasks well. Windows 10 is the exact opposite. It's an OS that is in your face, which interrupts you with full screen banners all the time, which reboots you all the time, which shows you ads, shows you modal pop ups to tell you to do things differently, etc. This is not what we need an OS to do.

Re:What Really Happened with Vista: An Insider's Retrospective by Spooky23 on Saturday January 13, 2018 @06:16PM (#16141916)
I agree with you. IMO, Windows 10 is one of the worst products ever shipped.

The upside is that it is driving developers and users away from the platform. Windows is a dead man walking.

Re:What Really Happened with Vista: An Insider's Retrospective by contrarian_ on Saturday January 13, 2018 @09:56AM (#16139813)
The network connection side panel also seems to never open when you want it to, only to open 2 minutes later when you are watching a fullscreen video.
Re:What Really Happened with Vista: An Insider's Retrospective by jschwartzi on Saturday January 13, 2018 @08:45PM (#16142388)
On my work laptop, typing "Mouse" into the search box only lists the mouse settings about 50% of the time. Usually closing the search box and then repeating the search returns the correct result.

As to why I have to open mouse settings so often, Windows inexplicably forgets my scroll speed setting every time I plug my mouse in.

Re:What Really Happened with Vista: An Insider's Retrospective by Macha on Saturday January 13, 2018 @07:03AM (#16139264)
This is also possible with spotlight. The most clear example for me was the day I typed "polyc<enter>" for Polycom instead of my usual "poly<enter>" and ended up on the wikipedia page for polycystic ovarian syndrome instead of a video call application.
Re:What Really Happened with Vista: An Insider's Retrospective by knolan on Saturday January 13, 2018 @07:20AM (#16139311)
Yes, but the correct search result will be usually be second or third in the list. Using the polyc string a few times will rank it top of the list.

Windows search will often just refuse to give the correct answer until you type an exact match.

Re:What Really Happened with Vista: An Insider's Retrospective by Sylos on Saturday January 13, 2018 @07:08AM (#16139281)
An example from Windows Server 2016: When I search for "SQL" or for "Studio", it'll find SQL Server Management Studio. But when I search for "SQL Studio", it won't.
Re:What Really Happened with Vista: An Insider's Retrospective by pfooti on Saturday January 13, 2018 @09:40AM (#16139765)
Please avoid using the r word conversationally.
Re:What Really Happened with Vista: An Insider's Retrospective by klibertp on Sunday January 14, 2018 @06:15AM (#16143770)
Why? Asking as a non-native English speaker, please excuse me if it's obvious. Is "retarded" somehow worse than "fucked up" or simply "shit", which seem to be accepted in casual conversations around here?
Re:What Really Happened with Vista: An Insider's Retrospective by pfooti on Sunday January 14, 2018 @12:01PM (#16145005)
Yes. It is considered by the mentally disabled community to be similar to the n word. It is a word that was used to marginalize an entire population, now used to describe something bad.

Consider, as a non native speaker, if English speakers used your language of origin to mean "terrible". I don't know your language, but imagine it was Latin, and kids would taunt each other saying, "ha ha you're so latin" on the playground, and "windows search is simply latin". This is a constructed example, of course, but the issue is not that the word is offensive (fucked, or shit would have been fine), but that the word derives its power from being linked to marginalizing and othering people.

For more:

https://www.r-word.org/default.aspx?viewfullsite=Y

Re:What Really Happened with Vista: An Insider's Retrospective by klibertp on Sunday January 14, 2018 @01:58PM (#16145632)
Thanks, I didn't know that. I'm Polish, and, of course, we have such words; not even swear-words per se, just words consistently used over time in a derogatory manner, while also being associated with a group of people. We also have a very insulting word for mentally disabled people, equivalent to the English word "retard", but it functions only as a noun (so no direct equivalent of the "retarded" word) and applies only to people. It's interesting because both noun and adjective versions of a word for homosexual people exist, just like in English, and the same is true for many other insults, especially ethnicity and sex-based ones.

Anyway, I agree that such words should be avoided and not used. (Although it's hard to avoid it completely when talking about the word, without using it.)

Re:What Really Happened with Vista: An Insider's Retrospective by ersii on Sunday January 14, 2018 @04:14PM (#16146509)
Please don't treat pfooti's comment too seriously though, most people would not react to the way the original poster used the word and would disagree with the purported disrespect the usage implies according to pfooti.

The world is a big place and everyone does not (thankfully) live in the liberal US coastal areas :-)

Re:What Really Happened with Vista: An Insider's Retrospective by pfooti on Sunday January 14, 2018 @05:53PM (#16147011)
Speaking objectively, I linked to an appeal from a broad coalition of disability rights activists to stop using a particular term in the vernacular that has a demonstrable link to the othering. This is not just me, nor is it "liberal coastal areas".

A little more concretely: it's not up to the person saying anything to decide whether or not the thing they say conveys disrespect or harm. It is up to the people harmed by those words to decide. You can, of course, choose to ignore the harm done and continue on as before.

That said, I'm sure the OP's intent was innocent enough - this is the kind of thoughtless use of the word that I (and many other people) work to problematize. I had intended to do so publicly but without much fanfare (one quick sentence), to draw attention to this fact in hopes that we could all work to shift the language.

Speaking subjectively, I find it troubling that the notion that basic decency toward other humans who have a relatively simple ask (use "terrible" or "garbagefire" or "shitty" instead of "r_") is viewed as a "liberal US coastal" practice that should be avoided out of sheer tribalism. Not sure there's much else to say rather than "troubling".

This whole thread is OT at this point, but I'm simply not willing to let this go. The lexicon has plenty of synonyms for "is terrible and unintelligently designed and frustrating to use" that we can afford to drop one.