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Re:Meltdown Update Kernel doesnt boot by em3rgent0rdr on Wednesday January 10, 2018 @05:15PM (#16119660)
even if it affects all speculative CPUs, if this happened in the car world, all the cars would be recalled. Not saying that is practical in computer world...just continuing with the analogy.

Spectre/Meltdown is a wakeup call for many things, one of them probably being for computer manufacturers to not solder the CPU to the Motherboard and for the x86 world to stick with a standard socket, to facilitate replacing parts.

Re:Meltdown Update Kernel doesnt boot by morganvachon on Wednesday January 10, 2018 @06:06PM (#16119992)
> "Spectre/Meltdown is a wakeup call for many things, one of them probably being for computer manufacturers to not solder the CPU to the Motherboard"

Good luck with that. A large portion of affected CPUs/SoCs are in mobile devices and ultrabooks. Socketed chips simply won't fly in those kinds of devices.

Re:Meltdown Update Kernel doesnt boot by flukus on Wednesday January 10, 2018 @07:00PM (#16120276)
Then the whole device should be replaced, that's the price they pay for their design decisions. Being "too hard" doesn't absolve you of your responsibility to consumers.
Re:Meltdown Update Kernel doesnt boot by em3rgent0rdr on Wednesday January 10, 2018 @07:27PM (#16120421)
Alternatively, even if the boards + CPU are tightly integrated, if used a particular standard like EOMA-68, then they could be easily replaced with rest of desktop/laptop/phone not being affected.

https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68/micro-desktop

Re:Meltdown Update Kernel doesnt boot by occams_chainsaw on Wednesday January 10, 2018 @05:20PM (#16119688)
That's why using non-OEM parts in your car voids the warranty.
Re:Meltdown Update Kernel doesnt boot by zerohp on Wednesday January 10, 2018 @05:31PM (#16119763)
No it doesn't. The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act of 1975 forces them to honor the warranty unless they can prove that the non-OEM part caused the fault.