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Re:Suburbs That Haven't Recovered from the Recession by Retric on Wednesday January 10, 2018 @02:51PM (#16118333)
A self driving golf cart is not a self driving car. Until we outlaw humans from driving anything self driving cars will need all their current safety tech. That might happen in 100+ years, but it may also never happen because hitting something due to mechanical / software failure is always going to be possible.

PS: Adding a camera may get cheaper over time, that does not mean it's ever cheaper than not having one in the first place.

Re:Suburbs That Haven't Recovered from the Recession by criddell on Wednesday January 10, 2018 @03:07PM (#16118523)
100 years? I was thinking more like 50.

Mechanical and software failures will always be possible. However, we already accept a really high rate of death and injury when both could be eliminated. I don't think that will change with self-driving cars.

Adding a camera is cheaper when it results in being able to eliminate hundreds of pounds of metal and airbags. We don't make bus riders wear a seatbelt because it just doesn't solve a huge problem. When the injury rate of car passengers gets to a similar level, we probably don't need seatbelts there either.

Re:Suburbs That Haven't Recovered from the Recession by Retric on Wednesday January 10, 2018 @03:39PM (#16118833)
We have zero production self driving cars today or in the next 3 years and will not be on 90% of new cars for at least a decade after they show up. Hyundai for example is targeting 2030 for urban driving as an option.

Cars last for ~25 years in normal use (average car in US is 11.5 years old and accidents take many out before reaching their lifespan). So, at a minimum we are talking 50 years before essentially every car is even capable of being self driven. Laws are unlikely to change before self driving goes from a novelty to assumed behavior call it another 25 years at a minimum. Now, add a few more years for phasing in the law, and then a few more for statistics to validate reducing safty equipment.

So, 100+ seems fairly optimistic as that's the happy path assuming zero major issues show up.