The Fight for Patent-Unencumbered Media Codecs Is Nearly Won

Re:The Fight for Patent-Unencumbered Media Codecs Is Nearly Won by shmerl on Wednesday January 10, 2018 @08:29AM (#16114737)

Legacy TV is dying out anyway, so eventually, some manufacturers would start making TVs without HEVC that would be targeted for Internet video and it will only snowball.

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Re:The Fight for Patent-Unencumbered Media Codecs Is Nearly Won by JustSomeNobody on Wednesday January 10, 2018 @10:05AM (#16115361)

I don't believe this is accurate. Do you have a source?

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Re:The Fight for Patent-Unencumbered Media Codecs Is Nearly Won by shmerl on Wednesday January 10, 2018 @10:11AM (#16115413)

> Do you have a source

Sure. So called "cord cutting" trend has been around for a while already, and legacy TV has been losing users in millions.

See: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Study%3A+Cord+Cutting+site%3Ahttps...

TL;DR: legacy TV is dead already, it just doesn't know it yet (or rather they already know it, but want to squeeze as much money as they can, before they hit the dust).

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Re:The Fight for Patent-Unencumbered Media Codecs Is Nearly Won by gsnedders on Wednesday January 10, 2018 @10:22AM (#16115510)

Note that DVB-T2 is a terrestrial broadcast standard (albeit not used in the US) and terrestrial broadcast is free/low cost in most places, hence US-focused articles about people dropping cable because of high monthly costs has little effect on the success of DVB-T2.

When it does come to pay TV, note that pay TV is still growing in Western Europe, mostly in places where they've historically had very little marketshare (v. terrestrial broadcasting).

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Re:The Fight for Patent-Unencumbered Media Codecs Is Nearly Won by shmerl on Wednesday January 10, 2018 @01:39PM (#16117597)

Sure, broadcasting is still part of the legacy TV, but as the rest, its decline depends on the growth of good quality Internet availability. In the long term it will be gone, and radio will be used for Internet itself. Clearing of spectrum for that purpose is already gradually happening and other radio based Internet access types are coming as well (low orbit satellites and etc.).

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Re:The Fight for Patent-Unencumbered Media Codecs Is Nearly Won by JustSomeNobody on Wednesday January 10, 2018 @12:12PM (#16116696)

Cord cutting typically refers to PAID TV, not OTA. OTA has seen increases because people are getting away from cable.

https://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Study-Broadcast-Only-Hom...

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Re:The Fight for Patent-Unencumbered Media Codecs Is Nearly Won by wmf on Wednesday January 10, 2018 @02:46PM (#16118289)

Tunerless TVs are definitely happening, but they are all smart TVs that need HEVC to support Netflix/Amazon/etc.

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Re:The Fight for Patent-Unencumbered Media Codecs Is Nearly Won by ZeroGravitas on Wednesday January 10, 2018 @03:19PM (#16118647)

Netflix and Amazon are founder members of the AOM that is developing and promoting AV1. If the smart dongle or TV supports AV1 they'll preferentially use that to get better quality at lower bandwidths.

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Re:The Fight for Patent-Unencumbered Media Codecs Is Nearly Won by ryanplant-au on Wednesday January 10, 2018 @03:29PM (#16118742)

Netflix and Amazon are both moving to AV1, so while that's true today, it won't be for long.

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Re:The Fight for Patent-Unencumbered Media Codecs Is Nearly Won by lern_too_spel on Wednesday January 10, 2018 @05:55PM (#16119923)

Smart TVs need to support VP9 for YouTube 4k. Netflix works with VP9 too, so HEVC doesn't seem necessary.

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