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Re:A Type of Road Junction that Kills Cyclists by swimfar on Wednesday January 10, 2018 @12:17AM (#16112720)
In the end, stop signs end up being treated like yield signs.

This definitely varies based on where in the US you are. In California almost no one comes to a complete stop. (That's probably why rolling through a stop sign is called a "California Roll"). But in many other parts of the country people do, even if there are no cars around.

Re:A Type of Road Junction that Kills Cyclists by nostrademons on Wednesday January 10, 2018 @12:55AM (#16112842)
Some of this may be that stop signs in California tend to be more superfluous.

In New England & NYC, a 4-way stop is usually used for urban neighborhoods where single-lane, low-traffic streets meet. Roundabouts and slip lanes are space-prohibitive in these situations (they'd have to go through privately-owned lots), traffic lights are overkill given the light traffic, and visibility is insufficient for a safe 2-way stop or yield.

In CA and other western states, these same neighborhoods are usually suburban houses with lawns, and even the apartment buildings have setbacks from the street. A yield would work fine, but either for habit or consistency, it's signed as a 4-way stop. Drivers feel like they have good visibility and it should be a yield, though, and so they roll through it.

Re:A Type of Road Junction that Kills Cyclists by labster on Wednesday January 10, 2018 @01:00AM (#16112858)
While I may California Roll occasionally, at a yield sign I may not slow at all, or only slow enough to safely make a turn. So there's definitely a difference between the two, even if you treat the stop sign as "just a guideline". Stop means go slow enough that you can make a complete stop if you see police in the intersection. "Oops, missed the limit line by a couple feet, but I was totally always gonna stop."
Re:A Type of Road Junction that Kills Cyclists by trhway on Wednesday January 10, 2018 @03:21AM (#16113316)
>In California almost no one comes to a complete stop. (That's probably why rolling through a stop sign is called a "California Roll").

It probably depends on where in CA. Have been living in Bay Area, mid-Peninsula, for 18 years and i've so far seen most people (and myself included) do complete stops. And just recently saw police stopped and cited a cyclist for the "California Roll" in Los Altos.

Re:A Type of Road Junction that Kills Cyclists by cagey on Wednesday January 10, 2018 @01:19AM (#16112907)
I know that practice by the name "California Stop"[1]

[1] https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=california%2...

Re:A Type of Road Junction that Kills Cyclists by u801e on Wednesday January 10, 2018 @08:15AM (#16114667)
In my experience driving through many states in the eastern part of the US, it's not really any different compared to your description of how drivers in California deal with stop signs.