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Re:What Spectre and Meltdown Mean for WebKit by dingo_bat on Tuesday January 09, 2018 @03:47AM (#16104565)
> There are websites that genuinely need to run some code, like webmails,

Not really, not if you think about it. Webmail doesn't need anything more than html(<5)+css.

> online trading platforms

Ditto.

> online games

Honestly, I think running webgames in a super-sandboxed flash (or similar) runtime is the best thing to do. Again, no use for js on the web.

Re:What Spectre and Meltdown Mean for WebKit by endless1234 on Tuesday January 09, 2018 @04:06AM (#16104654)
>Honestly, I think running webgames in a super-sandboxed flash (or similar) runtime is the best thing to do.

Why is one ECMAScript sandbox (flash) so much better than another?

Re:What Spectre and Meltdown Mean for WebKit by dingo_bat on Tuesday January 09, 2018 @11:37AM (#16107389)
Because it came with an awesome IDE/editor.
Re:What Spectre and Meltdown Mean for WebKit by send_computers on Tuesday January 09, 2018 @04:37AM (#16104795)
Yeah lets all just use bash commands to browse the web, way more secure and sure you can get the information you need... oh wait wasn't that 20 years ago?
Re:What Spectre and Meltdown Mean for WebKit by TeMPOraL on Tuesday January 09, 2018 @05:55AM (#16105123)
And it would still be possible if web standards didn't accrue so many capabilities that allowed people to treat them as a new medium of publishing color magazines (with invasive tracking as a cherry on the cake).
Re:What Spectre and Meltdown Mean for WebKit by om2 on Tuesday January 09, 2018 @04:42AM (#16104821)
Built-in JavaScript has a better security track record than Flash and it’s ActionScript engine.
Re:What Spectre and Meltdown Mean for WebKit by dingo_bat on Tuesday January 09, 2018 @05:59AM (#16105143)
That's true, but probably only because writing games and animations in js is sooooooooooo much harder than doing the same in flash.
Re:What Spectre and Meltdown Mean for WebKit by SquareWheel on Tuesday January 09, 2018 @10:25AM (#16106771)
>Not really, not if you think about it. Webmail doesn't need anything more than html(<5)+css.

Because redownloading the entire page every time you click a button is such a great experience...

Re:What Spectre and Meltdown Mean for WebKit by freeone3000 on Tuesday January 09, 2018 @11:12AM (#16107176)
The page without the javascript? It likely would be, since that would be much smaller.
Re:What Spectre and Meltdown Mean for WebKit by SquareWheel on Tuesday January 09, 2018 @11:42AM (#16107437)
That Javascript would already be cached and have no impact on further page loads.

Clicking "star" and losing your half-typed message would be very impactful, though.