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Re:The growing body of evidence that digital distraction is ... by SamPutnam on Monday January 08, 2018 @03:23PM (#16100091)
I stopped using a smartphone 2 months ago, switching to a flipphone with wi-fi calling. When I made the switch, the employees in the mobile store acted as if they had lost one of their own and outwardly displayed the 7 stages of grief for my old phone as I returned it for something without a touch screen...

1. Shock & Denial - ...I was asked if I was 'sure about this' more than 10 times during the transfer and repeatedly dissuaded from making the "down"grade.

2. Pain & Guilt- ...I was told that no one had done this before, that it was not recommended for any customer, and skeptically prodded as if in attempts to uncover that I lacked the qualities and smartphone use cases that make one human.

3. Anger & Bargaining- ...As one of the employees started setting up the phone for me, another came over, asked what model it was, and snickered loudly before saying how sh&@$#y the outdated messaging system was on the phone. I begrudgingly sat through spiels on several other models that didn't fit my requirement of 'just no apps'.

4. "Depression", Reflection, Loneliness- ...The 4 employees started talking amongst themselves in a ring about the old days, before any of them had a smartphone. There were noticeable pauses and head tilts throughout the conversation. I had been here an hour at this point.

5. The Upward Turn- ...They handed me the phone and one even said he envied me and wished me good luck.

6. Reconstruction & Working Through- ...I signed the contract and they showed me how to do wi-fi calling, cellular, and send messages, the only features I had wanted in the first place.

7. Acceptance & Hope- ...The employee who originally helped me said I "just had" to email him back to tell him what it was like on the "outside".

It was the most surreal experience, a basic exchange of products and services that from the perspective of everyone around me was akin to renouncing my citizenship.

Re:The growing body of evidence that digital distraction is ... by d23 on Monday January 08, 2018 @04:13PM (#16100650)
I would really like to do that, but honestly, I don't think I could get by without google maps and either uber or lyft. Looking through my smart phone, those are seriously the only applications I need. The other 60+ apps I could do without.
Re:The growing body of evidence that digital distraction is ... by nxc18 on Monday January 08, 2018 @04:18PM (#16100690)
Why don’t you prove it and delete the 60 unnecessary apps.

Goodness knows every single one is tracking you in some way or another or waiting to trick you with some dark pattern.

This isn’t meant to be sassy or to criticize you. I have similarly trimmed back all of the apps I don’t regularly use or rely on.

Re:The growing body of evidence that digital distraction is ... by EADGBE on Monday January 08, 2018 @04:50PM (#16100983)
No. Throw the baby out with the bathwater; they said.

I've deleted and re-installed Facebook countless times. It doesn't make me any holier, but having the choice of it there and choosing to go without seems like a stronger fight.

Re:The growing body of evidence that digital distraction is ... by ckosidows on Monday January 08, 2018 @05:04PM (#16101123)
I've told this to a lot of people around me... unfollow everyone on Facebook.

This does two things: 1. No more facebook feed 2. No more facebook ads

You still get to keep messenger as an extended contact book, people can still tag you in stupid things and pictures, you don't have to have that awkward conversation telling people you're no longer on facebook. I guarantee you'll never feel like you miss your feed. Nobody even has to know you've unfollowed them.

I've quit facebook twice and they didn't last. But I've had no feed for months now and I don't see myself going back.

Re:The growing body of evidence that digital distraction is ... by Balero on Monday January 08, 2018 @05:28PM (#16101383)
I too have done this. It's great, you still have access to everything, I use the events quite a lot. But the easy mindless discovery is gone, I spend much less time (1/100th) on it as i used too, I also don't have the app on my phone (just messenger)
Re:The growing body of evidence that digital distraction is ... by rdruxn on Monday January 08, 2018 @05:49PM (#16101581)
Why not just get a browser extension to hide your newsfeed? Seems like a much simpler solution than unfollowing your entire friend list.
Re:The growing body of evidence that digital distraction is ... by ckosidows on Wednesday January 10, 2018 @11:07AM (#16115968)
Because that doesn't work on chrome for mobile, as far as I know.
Re:The growing body of evidence that digital distraction is ... by EADGBE on Monday January 08, 2018 @05:14PM (#16101235)
Interesting idea. Funny that it removes ads, too.

> I guarantee you'll never feel like you miss your feed. Nobody even has to know you've unfollowed them.

I just have messenger on my phone, right now. It's a nice solution to most of these problems for me. But most of my facebook tags happen directly in Messenger vs. someone's post that I have to go look at.

Re:The growing body of evidence that digital distraction is ... by sideshowb on Monday January 08, 2018 @05:15PM (#16101240)
I tried this once and I think the algorithm just readjusted weights or something because I still see friends on my news feed.

For desktop I have used the social fixer plugin though no longer do

Still haven't found the answer tbh

My most recent approach is to start blogging. If I like writing about interesting stuff I might as well do it properly.

Re:The growing body of evidence that digital distraction is ... by matte_black on Monday January 08, 2018 @06:00PM (#16101691)
The good news is after having no feed for well over a year I can now imagine just deleting Facebook and never coming back. Only reason I don’t is because it’s a decent way to reach people, but once that’s no longer the case, it’s gone.
Re:The growing body of evidence that digital distraction is ... by rabidrat on Monday January 08, 2018 @05:06PM (#16101138)
That's true, the general recommendation for drug addicts is to keep their drug of choice in their home and within an arm's reach, so that they can exercise their willpower for the sake of the stronger fight. Someday you'll be strong enough to break free! Keep at it!
Re:The growing body of evidence that digital distraction is ... by vog on Tuesday January 09, 2018 @02:50AM (#16104338)
> the general recommendation for drug addicts is to keep their drug of choice in their home and within an arm's reach, so that they can exercise their willpower for the sake of the stronger fight

Is that really true? Where did you get that from?

It's exactly the opposite about I've learned about how to help drug addicts.

There is, however, the advice that for drugs which can't be quickly reduced to zero for medical reasons, those should be stowed by a close friend (depending on the situation), who then ensures the dosis is reduced over time in a proper way. The advantage is that the reduction of dosis is enforced by other person, and that if the addict temporarily needs a higher dosis for specific reasons, they might get it, but first have to discuss another person.

Re:The growing body of evidence that digital distraction is ... by rabidrat on Tuesday January 09, 2018 @06:08PM (#16111028)
Yes, sorry, I thought I was being obviously facetious. That strategy obviously does not work for drug addicts, so how would it work for phone addicts?
Re:The growing body of evidence that digital distraction is ... by EADGBE on Monday January 08, 2018 @05:09PM (#16101172)
If you're addicted to the phone, mine is obviously the wrong recommendation. If you're addicted to one specific service or industry of the phone, then perhaps it's a better solution.
Re:The growing body of evidence that digital distraction is ... by justherefortart on Monday January 08, 2018 @04:47PM (#16100954)
I bought a burner phone for my startup. Barely use it and it runs me $3/mo. When I do use it, it's phone calls only (and text but I don't use that). I use wifi when I'm at home or at work. (old SGS V)

It's really lead me to wonder why I have my two normal phones that run me ~$80/mo just to have access without wifi. (SGS VII and iPhone 8)

Re:The growing body of evidence that digital distraction is ... by Rudism on Monday January 08, 2018 @03:58PM (#16100480)
What device did you switch to? I tried making the same switch a couple years ago but couldn't stick to it, mainly due to missing GPS/maps (and secondly due to dumbphones making lousy mp3 players, and not being able to serve as wifi hotspots for mobile data on the rare occasions that I do want to do internet stuff on the go).
Re:The growing body of evidence that digital distraction is ... by floren on Monday January 08, 2018 @04:10PM (#16100629)
The Kyocera DuraXV (https://www.kyoceramobile.com/duraxv/) has navigation and I believe can act as a wifi hotspot, but goddamn, they want $260 for it which feels like a hell of a lot for a basic phone. Also I'm on AT&T and I think the DuraXV is Verizon only.
Re:The growing body of evidence that digital distraction is ... by floren on Monday January 08, 2018 @04:06PM (#16100575)
What phone did you get? I've been considering exactly that switch myself, but finding a flip-phone which can do wifi/4G calls (some older designs are at risk of having their compatible cell towers shut off soon) and navigation (that's one convenience that's mighty hard to give up) has been a challenge. I've only found one or two suitable phones and they've all been over $300 which seems ludicrous for something that simple.
Re:The growing body of evidence that digital distraction is ... by SamPutnam on Monday January 08, 2018 @04:14PM (#16100654)
lg Exalt
Re:The growing body of evidence that digital distraction is ... by zatkin on Monday January 08, 2018 @05:36PM (#16101449)
I did the same thing, but instead over the phone. The customer support rep didn't hesitate to switch over my service.
Re:The growing body of evidence that digital distraction is ... by vlunkr on Monday January 08, 2018 @04:37PM (#16100849)
So how has your experience been so far?
Re:The growing body of evidence that digital distraction is ... by catnaroek on Monday January 08, 2018 @03:30PM (#16100169)
They were actually grieving their company's (marginal) lost profits from your decision not to use a smartphone, so it was not as irrational as you think.
Re:The growing body of evidence that digital distraction is ... by dannyw on Monday January 08, 2018 @04:16PM (#16100670)
Retail employees don’t care about marginal lost profits of the corporate on individual interactions.
Re:The growing body of evidence that digital distraction is ... by kerryfalk on Monday January 08, 2018 @04:51PM (#16100991)
They do if they're paid spiffs on them.