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Re:James Damore has filed a class action lawsuit against Google by viridian on Monday January 08, 2018 @02:05PM (#16099096)
I largely agreed with the memo. I have coworkers and friends who fell on either side of the camp, but more in the agree camp than disagree. Should we just purge half the developers in Columbus for Silicon Valley wrongthink?

edit: looks like thenayr updated his post a couple of times since my reply. When written only the first two lines were present.

Re:James Damore has filed a class action lawsuit against Google by threeseed on Monday January 08, 2018 @02:10PM (#16099157)
(1) Your anecdotal evidence is literally worthless. You need to provide some statistics that 50% of developers support him. I can easily self select 100% of developers who disagree with Damore.

(2) If you agree/disagree with Damore that's great. It's your right as a person to have opinions and no company can criticise you for that. What you can't do however is publicise these issues on any forum. It's simply not a topic that has any merit being discussed in a professional environment.

Re:James Damore has filed a class action lawsuit against Google by viridian on Monday January 08, 2018 @02:17PM (#16099244)
In resp to 2)

He wrote the memo in response to an event he attended where they asked for feedback. Are you saying that you can't provide feedback on a topic that a talk is about if you come to the "wrong" conclusion? I've attended diversity events and have seen opinions expressed in the open, to executives even, that were far less progressive than Damore's interpretation. I think this is just a coastal thing, having topics like diversity be verboten seems silly if we are also having meetings about, setting up programs for, and shifting our non-tech->tech career plotting to favor diverse candidates.

Re:James Damore has filed a class action lawsuit against Google by mnglkhn2 on Monday January 08, 2018 @02:20PM (#16099301)
If you agree that one's opinion is "anecdotal" then why do you even bother expressing your opinion?! Unless you think your opinion is more relevant than OP's.
Re:James Damore has filed a class action lawsuit against Google by bmelton on Monday January 08, 2018 @02:28PM (#16099424)
Do you really mean to suggest that someone holding contrary views cannot express them on any forum?
Re:James Damore has filed a class action lawsuit against Google by Pyxl101 on Monday January 08, 2018 @02:17PM (#16099241)
The differences between men and women are a legitimate topic of scientific inquiry, and therefore discussion. It should certainly be reasonable to explore whether differences in traits leads to differences in preferences or interests such as occupation.
Re:James Damore has filed a class action lawsuit against Google by threeseed on Monday January 08, 2018 @02:25PM (#16099375)
Of course it's an important and legitimate topic of discussion.

Just don't discuss it at work. It's called professionalism.

Re:James Damore has filed a class action lawsuit against Google by Crespyl on Monday January 08, 2018 @02:41PM (#16099586)
> don't discuss it at work

Even after attending a work event on that very topic, which specifically asked for feedback and further discussion?

Or should discussion be restricted to only one viewpoint?

Re:James Damore has filed a class action lawsuit against Google by bmelton on Monday January 08, 2018 @02:31PM (#16099458)
Does that include diversity training that focuses on implicit and explicit consciousness bias differences between men and woman?