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Re:Apple shareholders push for study of phone addiction in c... by thomastjeffery on Sunday January 07, 2018 @11:58PM (#16094753)
I'm wary of the proposed solutions.

I spent very significant time during my childhood using computers. At the time, I would have had scarcely anything to prove that time was in any way "useful". I would have been hard pressed to convince others that my behavior was not detrimental.

Because I did spend so much time freely using computers, I learned how to use them. I learned about Linux, partitioning, bootloaders, programming, 3D modeling, etc.

My childhood learning experience happened over the course of more than a decade. It was full of totally pointless endeavors, a very significant part of it was just paying video games (which evolved into modding video games years later), and none of it would have happened with overbearing parents obsessed with the merits of my interests.

Re:Apple shareholders push for study of phone addiction in c... by nawtacawp on Monday January 08, 2018 @12:41AM (#16094884)
I would imagine a lot of us here who grew up in 90s would have the same experience. However, I do not see the same parallel to using a mobile device dominated by facebook, Snapchat, emojis and games. There is nothing to tinker with. I also don’t believe that mobile device use bridges to computer use — which could possibly cause a child to show interest in ‘how are these apps made?’
Re:Apple shareholders push for study of phone addiction in c... by thomastjeffery on Tuesday January 09, 2018 @02:45PM (#16109201)
That's the problem with locked down devices.

It seems like no one cared that when we got powerful supercomputers that fit in our pockets, we couldn't use them like real computers.

These arbitrary limitations are the real problem. I don't think adding to the collective fear of children using computers will help change that. It's more likely to convince parents to choose more control and censorship.

Re:Apple shareholders push for study of phone addiction in c... by dragonsky67 on Monday January 15, 2018 @12:37AM (#16148720)
I've got to say that I agree. We've been caring for three of our sisters kids recently. They are absolutely mesmerized by the ipads. To the point that you could drop a stack of dishes next to them and they would barely register.

Taking them to the museum is a exercise in frustration when you find that they ignore any chance to play with the dinosaur bones or look at the solar system models. Present them with a screen and they are captured. I was shocked to see them staring at a monitor that had a scrolling error message on it.. I don't think they are brain damaged, but you would not know it to see them anyware near a tv or monitor. It seems that they have little ability to process the world if it is not presented on a screen.

Re:Apple shareholders push for study of phone addiction in c... by xy55 on Monday January 08, 2018 @12:46AM (#16094897)
Do you believe that your experience is typical?
Re:Apple shareholders push for study of phone addiction in c... by thomastjeffery on Tuesday January 09, 2018 @03:07PM (#16109477)
Even if I am in a slim minority, I think it is impossible to tell what children will find similar interests. A culture that keeps children away from those experiences affects everyone.
Re:Apple shareholders push for study of phone addiction in c... by whywhywhywhy on Monday January 08, 2018 @07:15AM (#16096210)
Is an (Android or Apple) tablet a computer though?
Re:Apple shareholders push for study of phone addiction in c... by FussyZeus on Monday January 08, 2018 @12:53PM (#16098438)
I fail to see how the technical minutia that differentiate desktop PCs, laptops, tablets and phones affects their ability to create dopamine-producing feedback loops on demand. Everything past that is just semantics between platforms and interaction styles.
Re:Apple shareholders push for study of phone addiction in c... by thomastjeffery on Tuesday January 09, 2018 @02:55PM (#16109326)
They are severely arbitrarily limited ones.

That's a very related problem.