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Re:My Thoughts on Oracle v Google by bad_user on Monday August 16, 2010 @02:19PM (#1608640)
> The Java specification has a patent grant clause for compliant implementations, which obviously includes OpenJDK

OpenJDK is safe because AFAIK the GPLv2 license also has a patent grant.

But if you want to take Apache Harmony and trim it down so it fits on a mobile device or on a pen ... the very essence of open-source ... then you're fucked.

If you want to take some idea from OpenJDK and use it in Jikes; a cross-pollination of ideas (not copyright infringement) which is again ... the very essence of open-source ... then you're fucked again.

Java is not an open-platform. It never was.

Re:My Thoughts on Oracle v Google by delackner on Monday August 16, 2010 @10:32PM (#1610041)
Taking some patented "idea" from a GPL'd piece of code and re-implementing it in your own separately licensed code is not something that the GPL gives you the right to do.

Your definition of open-platform requires that the code not be covered by any patents. Anyway, the best thing that can come out of all of this is more deep-pocketed players angry with the software patent system.

Re:My Thoughts on Oracle v Google by bad_user on Tuesday August 17, 2010 @05:16AM (#1610652)
But my point isn't about what the GPL gives you the right to do.

I don't see the Linux kernel devs getting sued or suing the *BSD kernel devs, although they share ideas all the time.

Also, people scale/modify the Linux/BSD kernel to fit their needs all the time. The Java patent grant only applies if you're not building a subset/superset of Java or if you're extending OpenJDK. But these aren't enough ... some people do not want GPL.

That's what I mean by "the spirit of open-source" ... it's a collaboration effort from which everyone benefits.

And as of this recent announcement, OpenJDK is open-source only by license ... if that wasn't clear already.