System76, specifically the Galago Pro. I want it because Linux runs well on it, it has 8th gen i7, 16gb ram, and a 4k non touch screen.

But only US layouts. European, specifically scandinavian and UK layouts, have 1 additional button, so labels cannot fix it either

I'll be honest, I'm still confused why the European 16GB non-touch xps13 configuration doesn't work for you...

Edit: ohhhh! You want non-touch but 4k. Now I see! But if it's paying for unwanted touch functionality vs a US keyboard layout (not to mention the vastly inferior design and size) then I know what I'm picking.

I just mention System76 because they have exactly what I want, but I have no way of being able to use it. I'm kind of bitter about it.

But yeah I'm getting sold more and more on the touch screen, honestly. I think gestures and such have the potential to be neat, and could optimize my workflow.

Being able to move and resize windowed stuff in i3, something I have bound to mouse keys at the moment, would be really neat with a touch screen. Makes the desktop seem tactile and real. It is a pain to move them with key presses, so I usually move my hand to the mouse anyhow.

Gestures, like some tap or something to move a window out of the scratchpad, and back to tiling mode or whatever. Neat. Though the keyboard combination I use now would probably be faster.

In addition, as Someone1234 pointed out, native touch events would be really nice to have when doing web dev. I for one constantly use the Chrome mobile emulator. Native would be better.

I think his primary goal is to mention system76 much as possible while pouring scorn on dell

Lol, scorn, that's a big word. I dislike System76 because they refuse to support European layouts. US only. I am very bitter about it.

I dislike most laptop manufacturers of this day, because they all either:

* Only make touch-screens in 4K

* Don't let you upgrade your RAM.

* Only sell with Windows bundled. Not paying for Windows, no thanks

Dell satisfied only one of those criteria. They are very high in my book. In fact, I am using one of their 4K monitors right now.

I'm glad the Dutch never widely adopted a different keyboard layout. Vowels with diacritics and the € are entered using a software method (dead keys, compose key, etc.) on a standard US keyboard layout.

I agree with you on System76 though. I am in the process of being a Galago Pro, but I really wish they'd open up or partner with a reliable distributor in the EU to lower shipping costs, provide localised keyboard layouts, and avoid having to pay VAT at the door.

Check out tuxedocomputers, you can get a danish or swedish layout and configure the laptops to your liking. They use the same barebones System76 uses.

Thanks, will do

ggsdata.se sells the same laptop with Swedish keyboard and Linux pre installed.

Does the Galago Pro have a TPM? Their website doesn't mention one, but not having a TPM is just silly.