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Re:Reading privileged memory with a side-channel by hrpnk on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @06:04PM (#16066302)
Both domains were registered on 2017-12-22. Given the planned disclosure on 9th January that Google mentions and MS and others coding patches silently [1], do the early reports [2] of kernel patches, does this mean that due to coding in the open the whole disclosure procedure has been vastly accelerated?

I wonder how the timing relates to New Year and many companies having holidays in CW1.

[1] https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-security/2018-Ja...

[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16046636

Re:Reading privileged memory with a side-channel by _delirium on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @06:09PM (#16066347)
Accelerated, but not vastly. Google's post says "We reported this issue to Intel, AMD and ARM on 2017-06-01", so the embargo still ended up holding for 7 months, even with it ending a week early. The domain registration dates of 2017-12-22 seem to be just when Google started to prepare for releasing the publicity materials, not when the vulnerability was discovered.
Re:Reading privileged memory with a side-channel by blattimwind on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @06:23PM (#16066456)
The Google Security Blog post actually says that the open development did not cause the early breakdown of the embargo in the last 1-2 hours, but

> We are posting before an originally coordinated disclosure date of January 9, 2018 because of existing public reports and growing speculation in the press and security research community about the issue, which raises the risk of exploitation. The full Project Zero report is forthcoming.

Re:Reading privileged memory with a side-channel by olliej on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @08:17PM (#16067146)
The problem isn't "it's not bought forward by that much relatively" in as much as you have an agreed timeline to have coordinated patches (e.g so one org doesn't push a fix before other orgs have). So if you have a bunch of orgs set up to do a release on day X, and then publish on X-[whatever] then you are effectively zero-daying.

Is it super important in this case? shrug.

But imagine for the sake of argument there was some undocumented cpu behaviour "if instruction x,y,z are executed in that order with these constants then catch fire", then having anyone pre-empt the agreed update time could be bad.

Re:Reading privileged memory with a side-channel by rofex on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @08:01PM (#16067070)
Sorry to be daft, but hasn't the Google Zero team jumped the gun on the coordinated disclosure date by publishing their blog post 6 days in advance?
Re:Reading privileged memory with a side-channel by Pharaoh2 on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @09:48PM (#16067604)
Some researchers had independently create and demonstrated working PoC based on the linux patches they saw which read kernel memory from user space. At that point it was already public.

After that its all about PR and getting people prepared for the magnitude and impact early.

Also to let people know that patches that were already available can be used (restarting GCP/AWS instances, SPI on chrome).