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Re:NSA’s top talent is leaving because of low pay, flagging ... by ben_w on Tuesday January 02, 2018 @10:47PM (#16058189)
Assuming $250/hr is a real example, that’s $470k/year. Is that really a problem?

(Assuming 40h per week, 47 weeks per year because systematic staff shortage and EU-duration holidays because that’s what I’m used to).

Re:NSA’s top talent is leaving because of low pay, flagging ... by DontGiveTwoFlux on Tuesday January 02, 2018 @10:57PM (#16058231)
The contracting company takes a significant cut of that.
Re:NSA’s top talent is leaving because of low pay, flagging ... by MrFoof on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @01:00AM (#16058850)
For hard numbers, 80% markup of wages paid out is typical (at least for large contingency recruiters and IT contractors), though it can be higher.

$250/hr billed usually results in $125-140/hr in the contractor's pocket, and $110-125/hr for the place that sent them out.

Re:NSA’s top talent is leaving because of low pay, flagging ... by fergie on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @07:11AM (#16060332)
In my experience its about 30%(ish) to the worker gross, which means that the worker gets about 20% after tax. It can be slightly higher or lower depending on the situation.
Re:NSA’s top talent is leaving because of low pay, flagging ... by MrFoof on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @03:36PM (#16064833)
Depends on the org, and the rate. For high rates for specialists (well in excess of $250/hr), this is true (contractor sees 30-40%). For lower-end shops and lower rates (think your Robert Half, your Randstads), the contractor tends to take 50-60% of the bill rate.

My sources are VPs from some of the large contingency recruiters, founders of some mid-range consulting shops (~500 person headcount), and having to help run a smaller consulting shop (~20 employees) in the past before going fully independent.

Re:NSA’s top talent is leaving because of low pay, flagging ... by enraged_camel on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @12:56AM (#16058831)
You are assuming 100% utilization, which is almost never true, and even if it were, most of that money goes to the contractor's employer.
Re:NSA’s top talent is leaving because of low pay, flagging ... by vonmoltke on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @09:24AM (#16061160)
I pulled $250/hour out of my ass.

As for the rest, I am not talking about consulting-style contracts where a company is billing out people individually. I'm talking about contracts for development of bespoke systems, provide specific services, and so on.

When Raytheon gets a contract, they get it to build X. They need to account for the work, and the amount they get paid for labor is the number of recorded hours times the agreed-upon rate for that specific type of labor. There is frequently also a soft cap on the number of hours that can be billed in specific periods. The billed rate covers not only the employee salary but also benefits, overhead, and profit.

Re:NSA’s top talent is leaving because of low pay, flagging ... by Xorlev on Tuesday January 02, 2018 @10:56PM (#16058228)
Depends, for a leader in their field that's on the low end. But, I understood $250/hr to be what the firm received -- usually contractors don't get nearly that much, but I don't have any experience with government contractors.
Re:NSA’s top talent is leaving because of low pay, flagging ... by gigl on Tuesday January 02, 2018 @11:29PM (#16058409)
From my experience, you're dead on for the majority of "staff augmentation" full time contracts that come from tech-related consulting+contracting firms. Most organizations I've been around (East Coast, DC region) charge around $250/hr to big government, and the people they assign make anywhere from $40-$125/hr depending on the specifics of their role.