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Re:A Message to Our Customers about iPhone Batteries and Per... by rplnt on Friday December 29, 2017 @04:48AM (#16028630)
> My experience has been that upgrading the OS results in degraded performance 100% of the time.

I have the same experience on Android. Of course I rarely received OS updates, but even that's better than Google making the device practically unusable.

Be it a marketing ploy, a conscious decision trying to protect me, or just a mistake, I don't care. It's bad.

Re:A Message to Our Customers about iPhone Batteries and Per... by bufferoverflow on Friday December 29, 2017 @05:03AM (#16028664)
I have the opposite experience with Android. My Nexus 5X now went from version 6 to 7 to 8, and that's not including the minor version updates. It hasn't gotten any slower. Looks like it will last a few more years easily.

Storage degradation is the only thing that worries me, I wish more companies made phones with microSD slots. Modern microSD cards are cheap and fast.

My old Apple devices, for comparison, are useless bricks.

Re:A Message to Our Customers about iPhone Batteries and Per... by matwood on Friday December 29, 2017 @09:29AM (#16029584)
That's nice. I don't remember which Android version it was, but it made my Nexus 7 unusable. After the update it would take minutes to start a web browser. I put it in a drawer and haven't used it since.
Re:A Message to Our Customers about iPhone Batteries and Per... by rplnt on Friday December 29, 2017 @05:11AM (#16028685)
My Samsung is definitely slower than it was few OS upgrades ago. It's becoming an annoyance. My at-the-time-google-owned-Motorola did't receive any updates. My Google Nexus tablet became completely unusable (like, really, really unusable, not just slow). With older devices, Android 2.x was horrible from the go, so I don't know if it could get worse (and there were only minor updates anyway).

A very small sample, I know. But part of my post was to point out that Apple users can consider themselves lucky at least in the regard that they do receive updates.

Re:A Message to Our Customers about iPhone Batteries and Per... by bufferoverflow on Friday December 29, 2017 @05:39AM (#16028763)
You're confusing the slowness caused by the updates (which doesn't exist on Android) with the slowness caused by the flash storage degradation (which absolutely does exist). I too have an old Nexus 10, which died from that cause, a common problem.

That's exactly why I think microSD support is so important. Your old card got slow? Buy a new one for $20, copy the files over, done.

Re:A Message to Our Customers about iPhone Batteries and Per... by rplnt on Friday December 29, 2017 @06:20AM (#16028896)
Ah, I see. Well that might be the cause for the Samsung device. It has an SD card slot, but I don't think that will help much now (good to know for future I guess). As for this

> which doesn't exist on Android

it's simply not true. Google pushed updates[1] to old Nexus devices that extremely hindered the performance. Downgrade made them fine again. I'm fairly certain it isn't a unique case, and Google wasn't the only one forcing shit upgrades on their customers.

1. quick find, but should be enough https://forums.androidcentral.com/google-nexus-7-tablet-2012...

Re:A Message to Our Customers about iPhone Batteries and Per... by bufferoverflow on Friday December 29, 2017 @07:39PM (#16033046)
There's absolutely no way updating a few dozen apps takes 6 hours because of the OS. It's the classic flash degradation symptom. My Nexus 10 is the same. It didn't get slow after the updates, it progressively slower over a couple of years.