It is not a topic that can be discussed either rationally or decently most places on the internet.

You bear some responsibility for this too. Coming out charging with flamebait, then blaming others when you get a flamewar, is incongruent. That's independent, by the way, of whether your underlying views are right or wrong, or even whether your indignation is justified.

We ban accounts that use HN primarily for political battle, regardless of which politics. So if you'd like to keep commenting here, please read https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and take the spirit of this site, i.e. intellectual curiosity, to heart.