Re:Airbus ready to axe A380 if fails to win Emirates deal
by markonen on Wednesday December 27, 2017 @01:21PM
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Plenty of airlines have replaced 747s with A380s. British Airways, Lufthansa, Air France and Qantas immediately come to mind.
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Re:Airbus ready to axe A380 if fails to win Emirates deal
by yardie on Wednesday December 27, 2017 @03:30PM
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It hasn't been a 1-for-1 replacement. At least for BA the 747 has been replaced by the A380, 777, and 787 on many routes. All 3 have different capacities to scale with demand; 787 < 777 < A380. And all 3 are more fuel efficient per passenger than the 747.
Re:Airbus ready to axe A380 if fails to win Emirates deal
by nimish on Wednesday December 27, 2017 @03:21PM
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The first three are from countries where Eads doing well is a political thing: Britain Germany and France own chunks of airbus and have a lot invested in it doing well. The former flag carriers are only nominally independent from the state.
Re:Airbus ready to axe A380 if fails to win Emirates deal
by markonen on Wednesday December 27, 2017 @03:43PM
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Tell me more about this nominal independence. The biggest state owner of IAG (BA’s corporate parent) is Qatar. Lufthansa is fully privatized. France owns ~15% of Air France-KLM.
Re:Airbus ready to axe A380 if fails to win Emirates deal
by adrianratnapala on Wednesday December 27, 2017 @06:18PM
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There are more connections than ownership.
For example, an airline might get preferred access to airport berths. Governments, and officials of privatised government entities serve to organise and stabilise this sort of cartel.
Re:Airbus ready to axe A380 if fails to win Emirates deal
by cnlevy on Wednesday December 27, 2017 @04:17PM
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European airlines prefer european airplanes; its a question of EU pride
Re:Airbus ready to axe A380 if fails to win Emirates deal
by dx034 on Tuesday January 02, 2018 @07:41AM
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So why is Ryanair flying a pure B737 fleet?
Re:Airbus ready to axe A380 if fails to win Emirates deal
by toyg on Wednesday December 27, 2017 @09:25PM
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Like Boeing isn't internationally linked to the US, or "buy American" wasn't a thing...
Re:Airbus ready to axe A380 if fails to win Emirates deal
by InternetOfStuff on Thursday December 28, 2017 @10:02AM
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> The first three are from countries where Eads doing well is a political thing: Britain Germany and France own chunks of airbus and have a lot invested in it doing well. The former flag carriers are only nominally independent from the state.
OTOH, Lufthansa was the initial customer for 747-8.
So while you correctly pointed out that influence, carriers aren't quite as dependent on their host nations as you assume.
Re:Airbus ready to axe A380 if fails to win Emirates deal
by i386 on Wednesday December 27, 2017 @07:19PM
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Qantas are currently replacing 747s with a fleet of A380s and 777s
Re:Airbus ready to axe A380 if fails to win Emirates deal
by stephen_g on Thursday December 28, 2017 @12:27AM
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Qantas don’t have any 777s (or any 777 orders). I think that going so hard on the A380 and never getting any 777s was one of their biggest mistakes. Now they’re doing better having cancelled their remaining A380 orders (after they got 12) and have started using the A330 on some routes with smaller demand and have finally got their first 787.
That, and their Emirates alliance have finally turned things around (they weren’t profitable internationally for several years until about two years ago).
Re:Airbus ready to axe A380 if fails to win Emirates deal
by exidy on Thursday December 28, 2017 @06:39PM
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What do you mean "started using the A330" ? It has been Qantas's go-to medium-haul airliner more than 10 years, long enough they they've all been refurbished recently with "A380 like" interiors.