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Re:An update on Better Ads (Chrome native ad-blocking) by Dylan16807 on Wednesday December 27, 2017 @12:32AM (#16013079)
> Disclosure: I have been working on a business, Robojar, intended to remove advertising and bypass paywalls in exchange for microsubscriptions. Google have a very similar model in Contributor.

Good luck! I love the idea of micropayments from a fixed budget to support sites, but Contributor's bidding-based system was not a good path at all.

> they will only be guaranteed to show up in Chrome if they use adsense

That's the worst-case scenario, as far as power abuse here. But they might be fair! We'll have to see.

Re:An update on Better Ads (Chrome native ad-blocking) by jacques_chester on Wednesday December 27, 2017 @01:00AM (#16013183)
I want to give Google the credit for a conceptually elegant approach that will slot neatly into the existing bidding system.

But it seems to think of humans and adtech bidding ecosystems as identical economic agents. If we're all perfect consumers, sure, the system converges to an equilibrium.

That seems like a mighty generous "if". It's already annoying to manage the mental cost of schemes like Patreon's. How much more annoying is to have to forecast, several weeks in advance, a bidding system that settles in milliseconds, millions of times per minute?

It's worth noting that I may be misunderstanding or misrepresenting the nuances and design of the Contributor scheme. I'm a potential competitor, my remarks ought to be look on skeptically.

But likewise I ask people to follow the money. Cui bono? In this case: Google.

Re:An update on Better Ads (Chrome native ad-blocking) by Dylan16807 on Wednesday December 27, 2017 @01:56AM (#16013340)
My main objection to the bidding system is not even the unpredictability, but that it rewards the wrong things. I don't want to pay more to a site that happens to have car insurance ads. I don't want to pay less to a site that installed fewer banners.

...hang on, when did google contributor relaunch as a service that pays per-page-load, is opt-in per domain, and is basically useless?

Google, you manage to do youtube red just fine. Try harder.

Re:An update on Better Ads (Chrome native ad-blocking) by jacques_chester on Wednesday December 27, 2017 @02:30AM (#16013420)
Oh wow, you're right. The model has gotten even more cognitively expensive.

This somewhat widens my ray of hope.