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Re:The Echo Dot was the best-selling product on Amazon this ... by ferongr on Tuesday December 26, 2017 @11:47PM (#16012898)
Who could imagine that people would install telescreens voluntarily, and pay for the privilege?
Re:The Echo Dot was the best-selling product on Amazon this ... by Johnny555 on Wednesday December 27, 2017 @02:07AM (#16013365)
I think pretty much every 1970's era visionary foresaw video phones in everyone's home

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/70/bc/c9/70bcc9ab4c2ab6e22e29...

Re:The Echo Dot was the best-selling product on Amazon this ... by mikeash on Wednesday December 27, 2017 @09:23AM (#16014874)
It was pretty obvious a decade or two ago when everyone started buying cell phones. I don’t understand why techies are just freaking out about this now. I’ve had a potential listening device in my home since 2001, when I got my first cell phone. Most of you are in a similar situation.
Re:The Echo Dot was the best-selling product on Amazon this ... by thg on Wednesday December 27, 2017 @03:57PM (#16017968)
Having the microphone always-on drains a lot of power. You would notice it very quickly were your cell phone to transform into an always-on surveillance bug.

You're technically correct that cell phones leak all sorts of meta data that can be used for surveillance, but they aren't always listening. Voice assistants, however, are designed to be always-on and that is the key difference.

Re:The Echo Dot was the best-selling product on Amazon this ... by mikeash on Wednesday December 27, 2017 @04:00PM (#16017995)
My phone is always listening already. Battery life is just fine.

Some phones aren’t designed to always listen, but voice assistants aren’t designed to record everything and upload it, so what’s the difference? In both cases, you’d need something that goes beyond the advertised functionality.

Re:The Echo Dot was the best-selling product on Amazon this ... by CamperBob2 on Tuesday December 26, 2017 @11:59PM (#16012941)
It's long been clear that Huxley's vision has won out over Orwell's.
Re:The Echo Dot was the best-selling product on Amazon this ... by thg on Wednesday December 27, 2017 @05:01AM (#16013885)
It's more a mix of both than an either-or. In the western world we can see Huxley's vision much more dominantly, while in China / NK it's not far a stretch to full Orwellian.

However, Orwell's envisioned surveillance apparatus is ubiquitous all over the planet, no matter what nation you live in.

Re:The Echo Dot was the best-selling product on Amazon this ... by JonDav on Wednesday December 27, 2017 @12:07AM (#16012975)
Problem is now the outrageous cost to own a lighthouse.